COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Stolen from FB....

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic
 
True_Blue69 said:
Stolen from FB....

I'm a doctor and an Infectious Diseases Specialist. I've been at this for more than 20 years seeing sick patients on a daily basis. I have worked in inner city hospitals and in the poorest slums of Africa. HIV-AIDS, Hepatitis,TB, SARS, Measles, Shingles, Whooping cough, Diphtheria...there is little I haven't been exposed to in my profession. And with notable exception of SARS, very little has left me feeling vulnerable, overwhelmed or downright scared.

I am not scared of Covid-19. I am concerned about the implications of a novel infectious agent that has spread the world over and continues to find new footholds in different soil. I am rightly concerned for the welfare of those who are elderly, in frail health or disenfranchised who stand to suffer mostly, and disproportionately, at the hands of this new scourge. But I am not scared of Covid-19.

What I am scared about is the loss of reason and wave of fear that has induced the masses of society into a spellbinding spiral of panic, stockpiling obscene quantities of anything that could fill a bomb shelter adequately in a post-apocalyptic world. I am scared of the N95 masks that are stolen from hospitals and urgent care clinics where they are actually needed for front line healthcare providers and instead are being donned in airports, malls, and coffee lounges, perpetuating even more fear and suspicion of others. I am scared that our hospitals will be overwhelmed with anyone who thinks they " probably don't have it but may as well get checked out no matter what because you just never know..." and those with heart failure, emphysema, pneumonia and strokes will pay the price for overfilled ER waiting rooms with only so many doctors and nurses to assess.

I am scared that travel restrictions will become so far reaching that weddings will be canceled, graduations missed and family reunions will not materialize. And well, even that big party called the Olympic Games...that could be kyboshed too. Can you even
imagine?

I'm scared those same epidemic fears will limit trade, harm partnerships in multiple sectors, business and otherwise and ultimately culminate in a global recession.

But mostly, I'm scared about what message we are telling our kids when faced with a threat. Instead of reason, rationality, openmindedness and altruism, we are telling them to panic, be fearful, suspicious, reactionary and self-interested.

Covid-19 is nowhere near over. It will be coming to a city, a hospital, a friend, even a family member near you at some point. Expect it. Stop waiting to be surprised further. The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives. But our own behaviors and "fight for yourself above all else" attitude could prove disastrous.

I implore you all. Temper fear with reason, panic with patience and uncertainty with education. We have an opportunity to learn a great deal about health hygiene and limiting the spread of innumerable transmissible diseases in our society. Let's meet this challenge together in the best spirit of compassion for others, patience, and above all, an unfailing effort to seek truth, facts and knowledge as opposed to conjecture, speculation and catastrophizing.

Facts not fear. Clean hands. Open hearts.
Our children will thank us for it.

#washurhands #geturflushot #respect #patiencenotpanic
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ER? He has been watching too much of it

This is wrong as well

"The fact is the virus itself will not likely do much harm when it arrives"

Tell that to the vulnerable
 
ChicagoBlue said:
I think your numbers are waaay high ON BOTH.

AND, to ram home your point, if I have it, where DO I go for treatment?

This whole “self quarantine” for 2 weeks is a joke! No work, no money! Who pays for that with the XX% of the population that lives hand to mouth?!
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20% needing hospitalisation is a known figure based on existing cases.

3.5% is the known case fatality rate.

these figures are not opinions, they come from the WHO and other medical sources.
 
As we all like figures as resident Rachel riley I have worked out we have 2035 posts per U.K. death.(at time of posting) So if 1 billion are dead by Easter @Ric is gonna need a bigger server. Chill out felllow bluemooners one project fear every generation is enough thank you.
 
hilts said:
As we all like figures as resident Rachel riley I have worked out we have 2035 posts per U.K. death.(at time of posting) So if 1 billion are dead by Easter @Ric is gonna need a bigger server. Chill out felllow bluemooners one project fear every generation is enough thank you.
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so you're our resident plastic Essex rag?
 
grunge said:
20% needing hospitalisation is a known figure based on existing cases.

3.5% is the known case fatality rate.

these figures are not opinions, they come from the WHO and other medical sources.
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The WHO know exactly how many people have had this virus?
 
Until i see Cillian Murphy walking down the middle of the road with just a hospital gown on i shall reserve my panicked rush for toilet paper. Better yet i'll buy 3 sea shells and show John Spartan how it's done.
 
hilts said:
The WHO know exactly how many people have had this virus?
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the WHO know the amount of people who have been confirmed, and out of those confirmed cases 20% need hospitals.


And that’s why 3.5% is a case fatality rate rather than mortality rate.
 
grunge said:
the WHO know the amount of people who have been confirmed, and out of those confirmed cases 20% need hospitals.


And that’s why 3.5% is a case fatality rate rather than mortality rate.
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And it’s not a great figure to put the fear of god into a frankly mard society
 
Tommy_Catons_Perm said:
It doubles every three days and there are about 200 cases in the uk. So in 50 days there could be 200x2^(50/3)=21 million.
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One thing I read earlier did resonate as accurate.

And that’s is the fact that known cases are increasing faster than real cases due to more testing.

so for now it’s best to going with doubling every 6 days as it’s based on peer reviewed journals.
 
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