COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Ban-jani]

The advice has really not really changed and the disease is motoring along at a scary pace,more decisive action needs to be taken rather than leave it to individuals to do the right thing

They’ve got the measures, as they are saying but it’s counterproductive to introduce them now.

They’re explaining why.

 

[AlgarveBlu]

Horrible landmark


According to Reuters:

The death toll from an outbreak of coronavirus in Italy has jumped in the last 24 hours by 189 to 1,016, a rise of 23%, the Civil Protection Agency said on Thursday.

The total number of cases in Italy, the European country hardest hit by the virus, rose to 15,113 from a previous 12,462, an increase of 21.7%. That marked the biggest daily rise in absolute terms since the contagion first came to light on Feb. 21.

The agency said that, of those originally infected, 1,258 had fully recovered compared to 1,045 the day before. Some 1,153 people were in intensive care against a previous 1,028.

 

[Rammy Blue]

Boris feeling much more confident knowing he’s got these two either side of him, lol.

 

[Phil1]

It’s counterproductive to the economy. The **** should just say it how it is.

 

[Chippy_boy]

Which is part of their job to be fair. We are already out of toilet roll and pasta how much more panic can we take! He did say its likely 10k are infected, as bad as it is I think it is right not to panic as the fallout once this has passed will end up doing more damage than the virus itself.

Bizarrely the 10k infected line is really good news. 10 deaths out of 10,000 cases is a lot better reading that 10 deaths out of the known 590 cases. Of course some of the 10k are unfortunately also going to die, but it's still going to be a better ratio that 1 in 59. Hopefully.

 

[Segga]

Talking sense these 2 fellas either side of old Boris

 

[Super David Silva 21]

We still not being proactive then.

Oh dear. Maybe it will go away by itself if we ignore it.

 

[urban genie]

His reasoning for not banning sports events

They are literally explaining why they’re waiting to put the measures in and that it’s all about timing but people don’t care to listen.

I am listening but many other countries, the WHO and people who have dealt with major outbreaks are saying the opposite to these two governemt appointed officials about closing schools, cancelling major events etc.

Also this is all scientific projection of what could or would happen for a virus we still know little about.

I just think it is a very casual approach.

As someone with a lung condition, I am expected to take this on faith against what we are seeing world wide.

Sorry I don't l and wouldn't if any government was acting like this.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Posted at 17:1517:15
BREAKINGCases in Italy jump to more than 15,000
The number of confirmed cases of coronavirus in Italy has risen to 15,113 from 12,462 on Wednesday, officials say.

well they have admitted they estimate it’s 10k in the uk.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

Boris will have the very best in this country on this type of thing advising him, so whats to say they wont be right? I know id trust the countries top scientists over anyone on here, despite some clearly thinking they know more.

I’m not sure it as based on epidemic science as they are making it sound (to delay the social distancing measures). From this press conference, the sole reason for not taking more decisive action yet is that they don’t trust the nation to fulfil the requirements of a lockdown for very long. That’s not at all to do with epidemiology, it’s more to do with behavioural science. They just think we’ll get bored and quit doing it. Simple as that. So they are waiting for the shit to hit the fan and will then take the measures. Risky. Let’s see how it goes.

 

[Claytop]

I'm liking our experts on TV currently - they sound sane and confident they are right.

Nah, I’m going with the BM experts instead...

 

[Ban-jani]

His reasoning for not banning sports events


I am listening but many other countries, the WHO and people who have dealt with major outbreaks are saying the opposite to these two governemt appointed officials about closing schools, cancelling major events etc.

Also this is all scientific projection of what could or would happen for a virus we still know little about.

I just think it is a very casual approach.

As someone with a lung condition, I am expected to take this on faith against what we are seeing world wide.

Sorry I don't l and wouldn't if any government was acting like this.

What do you want then? A total lockdown now?

They’ve just explained why that’s a bad idea.

This is shit for everyone mate and I feel for you but it’s inevitable and the decision is being taken on the best way to help more people get through it and for the country to come out of the other side.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

How many people will be ringing work and saying they have mild conditions and staying off for 7 days ?

 

[SebastianBlue]

people can comment on his response and how the government and the medical experts are saying but there are loads of comments cos it’s the Tories.

If you see those comments please report them.

The thread moves quickly so we mods may not see every comment, but we have tried to remove overt political statements/discussion (involving just party politics rather than pure conceptual discussion about how politics may generally impact government response) when we see them.

 

[domalino]

The ones dealing with it and who have been involved with Italys outbreak do, and are calling our stance madness

But they dont actually know anything special about epidemiology. Maybe a module or two at medical school 5, 10, 20 years ago.

You might as well as an Macedonian infantryman how Hannibal should have waged his campaigns.

The hospital doctors and nurses on the grounds dont study much epidemiology or know much about pandemics. They dont study models and run simulations.

They can tell you it's horrible on the front, but they dont know more about controlling a global pandemic than the people running the organisations that do.

 

[kaz7]

They’ve got the measures, as they are saying but it’s counterproductive to introduce them now.

They’re explaining why.

i just don't agree with it,i know it is difficult to make these decisions,there are many things to consider,if they introduce any measures today it would take days/weeks/never to take full effect,stop people going to matches,large groups of people travelling when they dont have to,that would negate a large risk factor TODAY

 

[Claytop]

There was always going to be far more cases than what have been confirmed, of course you might have some more deaths too but I’m pretty sure the mortality rate will come down a lot.

 

[Super David Silva 21]

I'm still at work but getting snippets of what's coming out.

Government chief scientific adviser Vallance: "On average 1 person infects 2/3 others .. you have a very low probability of infecting a large number of people in a stadium"

Huh??

 

[MCFC1993]

Got to be honest, when he said 'a lot of families will lose people before their time' that hit home a bit.

I don't know whether he should have said it but I suppose we all know it's coming.

 

[domalino]

His reasoning for not banning sports events


I am listening but many other countries, the WHO and people who have dealt with major outbreaks are saying the opposite to these two governemt appointed officials about closing schools, cancelling major events etc.

Also this is all scientific projection of what could or would happen for a virus we still know little about.

I just think it is a very casual approach.

As someone with a lung condition, I am expected to take this on faith against what we are seeing world wide.

Sorry I don't l and wouldn't if any government was acting like this.

You are so blinded by distrust of a government body that youd rather take advice from an italian nurse with a blog than people who have spent decades tracking and trying to prevent epidemics.