it wont be done in less than a year for safety reasons,herd immunity works for the healthy who wont be much bothered by it but will spread itAnd they guarantee it will work and be made available to everyone before another bout hits the country? I know they got a vaccine ready to deploy for SARS in about 9 months but it wasn't really needed, and some think they may get this one done in 6 months, which would be great. I really think the herd community idea is sensible, but still hope the vaccine is ready in record time.
Exactly. I think as a society we’ve got to question if we have the right priorities. We can recover from the hit to the economy or the societal impact, no matter how hard that may be to do and how long it takes. There’s no recovery from losing loved ones, particularly if we haven’t done everything possible to stop it.
Edited for perspectiveMy concern is that people have lost perspective in the short term and it will lead to considerable hardship for me as I'm worried I might lose my job in the long term.
They may be the best scientists, but have they ever been to a football match?Have you watched the presser?
The vulnerable are being told now to take extra measures compared to the fit and healthy now.
When the lockdown comes, which needs to be at the right time, they will be the first to be ordered to, to protect them.
Reading between the lines China may well have to go through it again once the lockdown finishes and our plan is to try and build up immunity.
They have the best scientists available on this.
Always looking at the bright sides of things.If it's any consolation, 50% of us are going to die of cancer anyway.
That’s because the CDC and WHO vget together in May to decide which strain of the Flu is going to hit the west that coming autumn and winter (funnily enough by tracking outbreaks in China as it always comes from there).Looks like I was right at the start of the week, we have been groomed to other the elderly, those with underlying health conditions and the vulnerable
Re Herd Immunity, I’m not scientist but I imagine it takes years and an available vaccination. A quick Google search:
“Herd Immunity and the Flu
Some vaccines are better at producing herd immunity than others. The measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine is 97% effective at preventing measles. So when lots of people in a community get this vaccine, protection rates stay high.
The flu vaccine is a little different. It's only about 40% to 60% effective in any given year. That's because sometimes the virus strains in the vaccine don't exactly match the virus that spreads.”
We haven’t got a fucking chance!
:)The rest of us will build the herd mentality
That worries me. Hopefully having implemented stricter measures nationwide before it grew too out of hand in the South will prevent it from taking a heavy toll on them.Further south cases are growing.
The places in northern Italy that were locked down 2 weeks ago are not showing new cases. Further south cases are growing.
Seems to me that staying at home, whether ill or not is the answer. If you are infected hopefully after 2 weeks you recover and are not infectious, if you weren't infected at least you've not come into contact with anyone who is.
That’s why they’ll be isolated so they don’t catch it, the rest of us will build the herd mentality and will have to be careful around the elderly.
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You mean when the number of cases peaks, right?
Unless I got it all wrong, that number depends directly on personal contact and doesn't increase autonomously with time. Limiting personal contact would lower/postpone the peak. There wouldn't be that same peak in 4 weeks.
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That worries me. Hopefully having implemented stricter measures nationwide before it grew too out of hand in the South will prevent it from taking a heavy toll on them.
As I said to @TheRemainsOfTheDave, I understand the general reasoning behind your post, but there are very real consequences to building heard immunity in this fashion (it is usually a concept applied to the gradual, natural acquisition of immunity to an endemic pathogen by a large population, usually over many years). Those consequences are especially relevant in the context of a potentially overwhelmed healthcare system, which could happen well before the “peak” you have previously described, as people act on their own (external restrictions are not being placed on them) and seek treatment whether or not they have the virus. This is still a *very* risky strategy. And it is not one being adopted by most other nations, nor one being recommended by most reputable health organisations.Have you watched the presser?
The vulnerable are being told now to take extra measures compared to the fit and healthy now.
When the lockdown comes, which needs to be at the right time, they will be the first to be ordered to, to protect them.
Reading between the lines China may well have to go through it again once the lockdown finishes and our plan is to try and build up immunity.
They have the best scientists available on this.
That’s because the CDC and WHO vget together in May to decide which strain of the Flu is going to hit the west that coming autumn and winter (funnily enough by tracking outbreaks in China as it always comes from there).
They don’t always get it right as there are so many variants.
Hopefully Covid-19 won’t have so many different strains by the time we can create a viable vaccine.