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Clearly a joke mate, and taken it the spirit intended I am sure. But genuine question, why did you post such a thing? I mean I come from Hazel Grove raised in a terraced house and now live in a bog standard house (Barrat) on a housing estate. Anyway, whatever...
 
Yeah, it’s hard to get my head round at times. As you know, my Dad has Alzheimer’s and as such always seemed the more vulnerable one, but this has turned the tables a bit. As with you, not sure what we’d do if Mum went first. Even typing this is bringing tears to my eyes. Christ.
I’m in the same boat mate my mums nearly 84 very good for her age but has serious asthma I’ve done everything I can do now apart from locking her away, it doesn’t seem fair that this has been forced upon us from somewhere thousands of miles away,
I’ll save my rant about China for another day....hopefully.
 
it’s very scary for those who have health issues and are elderly. I had a chat with my mum today and asked if she wanted to completely self isolate with food dropped at the door etc. She said she would rather spend whatever time she has left seeing her family and if she goes then she will go with these memories. The fear of dying alone is too much for her to bear. She has COPD and wouldn’t survive this I don’t think. She made me sit with her today and listen to her instructions on where to find things if she becomes ill and dies. It’s a very hard conversation to have. We cracked open the whisky after and had a nice little chat. Sometimes it takes events like this to make you realise how important family is and how unimportant some other things are.

Sage words. Such a difficult conversation. I'm working up to mine in the next couple of days. I read this article earlier

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...9-nhs-doctors-patients?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

As Britain approaches peak infection, we therefore owe it to each other to start talking now. Would your mother, approaching 80, even wish for an intensive care bed? Do you, her anxious offspring, even feel able to find out? No one can pretend these discussions are easy. Our dearly beloved mums and dads are no less loved for their years; how on earth do we begin to broach the prospect of each other’s deaths?

If there is one thing I have learned from my time in a hospice, it is that these conversations rarely measure up to the degree with which we dread them. Indeed, for some elderly patients – conscious of their frailty – a little candour about the future can bring immense relief. It is fine to stumble, feel awkward, grope your way, get the words out wrong. In the end, all that matters is motive: the sincerity of your fumbled aim to tease out your loved one’s views.
 
Clearly a joke mate, and taken it the spirit intended I am sure. But genuine question, why did you post such a thing? I mean I come from Hazel Grove raised in a terraced house and now live in a bog standard house (Barrat) on a housing estate. Anyway, whatever...

I was under the impression we had joked about this several times, moat,beemers pool boy. I must admit the housing estate thing has me curious now lol. Anyhow if it bothers you it will be the last time I joke with you about it. No offence meant.

Scolded he withdraws from the room:-)
 

Poor chap and fair play to him. He seemingly has limited mental agility but his first thought is to advise people the best he can to stay safe. Bless you mate. There will be alot of ignorant people with vast amounts of cash and resources but little desire to protect humanity, they could all learn a thing from this chap.
 
If that happens, given we were behind Italy, France, Germany, Spain etc in terms of how quickly this has spread, and we had a golden opportunity to learn from the mistakes and learnings of others, then it will be not only a tragedy, but also a travesty. And genuinely, unless things change dramatically, I think that's where we are headed. Due to our own stupidity, I think we may very well be hit by this more than any other major nation (proportionally). And I am getting ahead of myself but if that does come to pass, some very senior people need to go jail.
What a ridiculous statement. There's no copper-bottomed, proven blueprint. Do you seriously think government and scientific advisers are wilfully causing deaths?
 
Poor chap and fair play to him. He seemingly has limited mental agility but his first thought is to advise people the best he can to stay safe. Bless you mate. There will be alot of ignorant people with vast amounts of cash and resources but little desire to protect humanity, they could all learn a thing from this chap.

My favorite Newfie. He's been doing weather reports for years mate.
 
It’s impossible to say. For example, in China where it’s more or less run its course (until they remove the lockdown) there are 3100 deaths and 3600 critical out of 81000. That would give a worst case of 8% fatal if all the critical ones died. They won’t of course but even if none die the rate would be 3.8%. The big unknown is how many had it and were never tested and recovered out of sight. To get it to 1%, there would have to be at least another 230,000 untested cases, which is more than possible.
More than possible ? Highly likely I'd say, it could easily be 2 noughts on the end of that and we'd never know, even if the chinese do. None of these official figures are anything like the extent in reality, look at the numbers for Turkey and Russia, no hiding of numbers there, right. Our own figures don't include anyone not tested so are hopelessly rubbish.

The true extent of this we are miles off knowing, and we will never know.
 
https://www.itv.com/news/2020-03-14...ime-style-mobilisation-to-combat-coronavirus/

The most depressing and scary artivle i've read, ITV shouldn't have let Peston put it out, cos i have been in pieces of worry as it is, but now i've actually been crying. Some may laugh at me for that if you want... but my mum is 77, with COPD (ie lung problems) with inhalers, high blood pressure, unstable angina, spinal nerve problem, broken knee that cannot be fixed due to weak bone so permanantly on crutches, and had a bowel scan test looking for the C word a few weeks ago. And she lives on her own, as i'm stuck in a flat with my 3 year old son and my partner - me and my son are in all day but my partner is still being made to travel 12 miles to work every dy as so far they refuse to let him homework. I am scared for my mum, so so so scared, my dad died last year, i wanted to be spending good times with my mum, giving my son memories with her, letting us all be family, and now, now it's practically impossible as it is for me to even get round there to see her, and soon from teh sound of it i simply wont be able to. And to top it all, my sister is one of these who was saying "it's just like flu it's fine" and no doubt still going round the last week, even though my mum has been staying in.
So yes, i can't help it, i'm scared to death of losing my mum, my mum is my world, she wont cope living alone not going out and no one going in for months. And the bit about not treating anyone over 65?

I just need my mum.

Sorry you are dealing with all that lovely,make sure she has all her medications and takes them all,steer well away from stuff like that article,try and stick to the facts and not opinion pieces,no-on needs to be reading that stuff from a broadcaster

I think you can still go and see her if you are really careful,wash your hands before you go and when you get there,don't hug her but just being in the same room will be a comfort to both of you,don't take your son just in case,i think her wellbeing would be better served to see you and/or your sister than not despite the risks,does she have any neighbours than can check in on her?

Can you set up skype as well? eating meals at the same time and talking like you were together perhaps,you will have a line of contact set up which will be reassuring for both of you

I know its a huge worry and i can't help you with that but try and take a deep breath and work out a plan,it will be easier if you can think it through and get something organised

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I have several meetings in work booked for Monday but seriously want to cancel them all being in a room on separate occasions with a multiple of different people doesn’t really fill me with excitement, we all know the physical side of this but as per usual we don’t really touch on the mental side of this , it will have a huge impact of people’s mental health unfortunately.
 
I’ve struggled a bit with it the last few days in terms of worry about my parents, particularly my dad who has long running heart and lung problems. He was far more sanguine about it all than I expected though, he’s at that age where he’s lost plenty of loved ones already and sees it all as just something to crack on and deal with. He said something that got to me ,and I’ve got first hand experience of this too, which was sometimes it’s easier to be the person in the bed than the person stood next to it.

We can and will get through this. The one thing I’m clinging to is that when we do go into lockdown and in a situation where we have no other choice, we as a society will come together and show how selfless and altruistic we can be, which is something I think is actually quite timely and needed.
 
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