COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[BobKowalski]

Then I expect they will be called again.

Let it go.

We made certain assumptions. We backed those assumptions. We are now revising those assumptions and are now going for a suppression strategy. Shit happens. In this case it just happens to be bad shit.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

This is very true.

I once had to sit near Piers Morgan.

Did you catch anything.

 

[Ric]

Me too mate, would be brilliant, tough times eh ?

Very strange/worrying times indeed. Still feels a bit surreal tbh.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Im cautious maybe 3 ?

I don know Ric personally.
Maybe you’re right.

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

I don know Ric personally.
Maybe you’re right.

Neither do I. But I'm generally working on about 10 meters. Crossing roads to avoid passing people. So 3 meters would be almost intimate contact.

 

[kaz7]

They've already said they have 20,000 3rd year undergraduate nurses (a few months away from graduating) who will be used to free up experienced nurses to go onto the new ICU wards.

Fortunately Karen, things like "who's going to staff the wards" is not a question anyone could forget when calculating how many extra ICU beds can be made.

You are specalised intensive care nurses,you have to know and understand the equipement,have confidence and skills to look after critical patients,you can't just do an hrs crash course,as always with the nhs cutting corners is the order of the day,i know how it works through experience not looking at graphs and plans,the specialised nurses and dr are exhausted already,you don't have more of the same that you can just wheel out,drs can switch but nurses specialise much more,it is naive to think we won't be plugging holes and hoping for the best

 

[aguero93:20]

Absolutely correct.

What people who keep saying "trust the advice of the scientists" fail to grasp is that these are political decisions more than scientific ones. If you asked scientists right now, what was the best way to limit deaths from COVID-19 to an absolute minimum, then surely the answer would be to shut all non-essential services down immediately and send everyone home. Patrol the streets with troops and keep everyone apart from those involved in food production and distribution (and one or two other essential activities) shut in. Job done.

But obviously the political answer is we cannot simply do that. So immediately you are not acting solely on scientific advice. Practical and economic considerations have to come into it. The scientists produce models to suggest the most appropriate actions given certain constraints. And the politicians consider the recommendations and the pros and cons and make a political decision as to the best overall course. You can simply say "it's the Chief Medical Officer's" recommendation.

Someone gets it at least.

 

[Tricky_Trev]

This is very true.

I once had to sit near Piers Morgan.

Now there’s something we need herd immunity from

 

[SebastianBlue]

Now there’s something we need herd immunity from

**** herd immunity, mate — we need a cure!

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

To be honest then mate if you've got a lot of predictions wrong, its not that clever if and when one comes right to say "everyone saw it coming".

Cos you would have said that if any of you other incorrect predictions had happened.

Which they didn't.

That’s fair comment, but this was the big call and as I’ve said, I genuinely assumed everyone could see it coming?

How could it not, once it got a proper grip? ?

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Me too mate, would be brilliant, tough times eh ?

Don’t expect him to get many beers in.

 

[kaz7]

I wonder whether the 18 month timeframe includes the time it takes to make it available for all? Producing and distributing a vaccine for the entire globe is surely going to take a long time. I don’t know if the 18 months estimate factors that in, or if that’s just when some lucky sods get the first batch.

Health care staff are geting the first batches,it will be nearer 2 yrs i think before the rest of the public get it

 

[kaz7]

How can it be ready by November if the first person undergoing trials for it now has to be monitored for 14 months?

It won't be,there will be no skipping of stages,safety is everything

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Don’t expect him to get many beers in.

Believe me, we see that graph on its way down, I'll get them all. All night.

 

[domalino]

@SWP's back

We have that data for hospitalisations by age now.

Going off last year's population figures I posted earlier, over 70's would account for 43.4% of hospitalisations without isolation.

Meanwhile Children represent 0.05% of hospitalisations despite being almost 1/4 of the population.

 

[oakiecokie]

Well I'm up for the fight, come on guys. Keep going.

At last somebody with a brain.Well said BJL.
Some right wet fannies on this forum.
I bet some of these fuckers actually made that placard you used to see outside Maine Road ... "The End of the World is Nigh".

 

[oakiecokie]

We are so poorly equipped mentally to deal with this.

This is why Empires fall. We’ve become decadent and entitled.

Sounds just like a match day thread after we`ve lost mate.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Just watched this on BBC2 - fucking chilling

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0blmn5l/the-flu-that-killed-50-million

 

[BobKowalski]

It's not my gripe. I'm ok with what happened.

Judging by the press conference I don’t think Johnson or the CMO are ok with it. Judgement calls have to be made though and sometimes like this one the call is wrong. As long as we recognise that, correct it in time and move forward on the new strategy then ok.

It’s going to be a very difficult time on the health and economic front and the Govt has a hell of a lot of work to do starting tomorrow.

 

[oakiecokie]

Looks like I will be asked to stay at home for 12 weeks according to the BBC, I pity the wife the pets and the fridge.

Now thats what we need more of on this thread a bit of comedy.Made me smile ref the fridge,mexico. ;)