COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[birch villa]

Are the lions staying 2 metres apart?

We got enuff animals on our streets at the moment

 

[kaz7]

10/12/15/20 people ok but not ok

who is this women?

 

[AlgarveBlu]

if this is a short hold assured tenancy I’m calling it a hoax.
He can just tell her to fuck off for at least three months.

don’t think it is, it’s now reporting in the Sun but your point seems to have been raised in the article to him on the legality of this. Let’s hope the landlady doesn’t now come into any bother as you know how these things can go if her address is released- unforeseen consequences

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11228454/nhs-medic-evicted-landlady-fears-coronavirus/

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Ive posted this questions quite a few times but not had a response and I’m genuinely interested in the science behind this strategy irrespective of the fact that my instincts tell me it will result in significantly more deaths than a solid lock down. Key word in Herd immunity is immunity.

1. how do you implement this without knowing if the infected have immunity to the virus? Every scientific paper I have read still confirms this is currently an unknown factor at this stage on immunity capacity with those infected.

2. the other 4 seasonal harmless Coronavirus are known to reinfect - Sars however has shown that antibodies for that strain are long lasting, but no evidence that it protects you. having antibodies to a virus does not uniformly give you future protection - HIV is just one example, the antibodies produced can’t see the virus. this covid19 has some hiv traits in its molecular structure.

3. If yes, how do you know how long the immunity lasts? Immunity duration periods can depend on the viral load you absorbed. This makes future trigger points (assuming we have immunity) really difficult to calculate and manage in terms of trying to flatten future reinfection episodes.

look lock down is not a silver bullet as phase 2 isn’t being discussed ( we have a propensity to only discuss what is in front of our face unfortunately ) but in my opinion based on nobody so far being able to answer any of the above questions has to be the only option we have and that we have data to draw upon - I accept it’s only really Chinese data at this time.

genuinely interested if you or anyone has theories or data that assists in answering the above.

I think that, if this virus can reinfect people within 18 months, then the game is up really and you’ll never stop it. If you do gain some level of immunity, and the fact that everyone is now talking about an antibody test to see if people (esp healthcare workers) have had it so they can keep working suggests that you can, then the science is irrefutable really. The reason for the lockdown isn’t really about saving lives from the virus as such, it’s so the health service(s) can cope with the demand.
The overwhelming majority who die with this virus, in 2020, would have sadly died in 2020 anyway. Over 600,000 people die every year in this country and, I’d imagine, about the same number will die over the next 12 months. In January there were 56,706 which was almost 2800 more than January 2019 but there was no big rush to make a fuss about it. 100000 deaths, in England, over the last five years due to influenza, for which there’s usually a vaccine.

 

[Gabriel]

says 12549 for me, both on country list and below where it lists sources.

Says 13,931 new cases for me now but was much lower earlier today.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We had a similar discussion yesterday about Italy's figure changing.

 

[Uffa]

I understand it and I'm 22 lol

Death rates higher than italy and spain at the same stage

No, our death toll was 366, yours is 281. Hopefully this means you won't follow our same exact course.

that’s a really positive sign if accurate

The testing might not be exactly consistent from day to day but it's still a 1000-positive cases difference from yesterday which I wouldn't attribute to testing differences alone. And I'd say the death toll is accurate as it's pretty hard to mess that number up.

 

[BlueAnorak]

Why is that the case? They’re saying total new cases.

The new cases total in the UK is only serious cases that require medical intervention and as such is only around 8% of the total cases.
In the US if you report symptoms you're counted.

 

[Claytop]

Merkel in quarantine.

 

[MCFC1993]

Big news in Germany:


Merkel quarantined after being vaccinated by a doctor who has tested positive.

 

[kaz7]

I understand it and I'm 22 lol

No, our death toll was 366, yours is 281. Hopefully this means you won't follow our same exact course.

The testing might not be exactly consistent from day to day but it's still a 1000-positive cases difference from yesterday which I wouldn't attribute to testing differences alone. And I'd say the death toll is accurate as it's pretty hard to mess that number up.

The bbc is going we are ahead at the same stage,it is confusing


Angel Merkel in isolation,treated by a positive dr

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Its not fucking hard advice is it

wash your hands every couple of hours

stay in if you can

if you want to go outside that’s fine but do not gather in groups and stay 2 metres apart from others.

How can people not understand it?

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Rain would’ve been ideal for the next couple of weeks. You certainly wouldn’t see mass queues for supermarkets.


What a clusterfuck.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

still horrendous figures though. On average 600 people dying every day.

1750 people were dying every day in Italy before anyone had eaten bat burger and nobody batted an eyelid. So, the current daily death rate, in Italy, is between 1750-2400. The real question is where on that line is Italy? The closer to 1750 the better, obviously, but we probably won’t know for three or four months.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Big news in Germany:

Vaccinated her ? For what?

 

[Uffa]

still horrendous figures though. On average 600 people dying every day.

Yeah but when it begins to stall and then go down it will do so gradually, it will never be 600 deaths one day and 10 the next. So if there starts to be a sign of gradual deflating over a few days, it's a positive thing.

 

[give it to gordon]

Rain would’ve been ideal for the next couple of weeks. You certainly wouldn’t see mass queues for supermarkets.


What a clusterfuck.

was thinking the same

 

[BlueHammer85]

Its not fucking hard advice is it

wash your hands every couple of hours

stay in if you can

if you want to go outside that’s fine but do not gather in groups and stay 2 metres apart from others.

How can people not understand it?

‘’gotta fuckin eat ain’t I’’

‘’I gotta fuckin work ain’t I ‘’

 

[BobKowalski]

Vaccinated her ? For what?

Preventative pneumonia

 

[MCFC1993]

Rain would’ve been ideal for the next couple of weeks. You certainly wouldn’t see mass queues for supermarkets.


What a clusterfuck.

Mad that we need a hurricane to save lives.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

So that’s where @Tim of the Oak and the Harrogate branch have got to

There are a number of pub beer gardens being used and people are saving money by visiting the supermarket for their cans. Not a great idea and a lock down by the end of the week is likely to put an end to this opportunism. People are claiming to be sat 2 metres apart.