COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Ban-jani said:
Why aren’t more people outraged that they lied to the WHO in as late as January, when we now know they had thousands of cases of this highly contagious virus, that is ruining and ending lives.
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Is any of the above actually true though mate? I am not sure it is. The Chinese were telling the world about this from early January. Take a look at the timeline here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timel...n_November_2019_–_January_2020#1_January_2020

I don't think they were lying to the WHO when in reality they had 1,000's of cases. And heck, even if they did, it was in Japan by late Jan, and other countries similar time. We knew it was coming and did bugger all for well over a month.
 
RandomJ said:
The benefits system is at breaking point. I’ve had people report to me at work that there is a 30,000 queue online and like 10,000 queue on phone to get through to Universal Credit. This is supposed to be a safety net to those affected by this current situation and they just can’t get access to that. Plus it’s then going to take a minimum of 6 weeks for their claim to processed. The government need to get a grip on this and fast or the DWP just won’t be able to cope.
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I tried applying online and got 75% through the identity check when it sent me to a screen that I couldn't leave because it was asking for information that I'd already said I didn't have and there was no option to go back to previous screens. Tried the phone and as you've mentioned it's a nightmare, I didn't even get a queuing number, it just cut me off after waiting for a few minutes.
 
Ban-jani said:
A friend of ours and her husband have caught it. They were in contact with someone two weeks ago, who tested positive this week, but it’s not clear if they definitely caught it from her.

We saw our friends almost two weeks ago, after she had seen this girl but currently have zero symptoms.

Do we self isolate?
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Yes,you might have it and have little or no symptoms,just don't take any chances
 
give it to gordon said:
just had a quick look out of my window in our quite little cull n sac, the self employed plumber has gone to work all week, the self employed builder has gone to work all week so far and the window cleaner has just turned up to do peoples windows. I think we are the only working house not to be working once we have finished 14 days isolation than 100% of our cull n sac will still be working !
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I'll be going in on the night shift later,supplying for the motorway.
It's a moot point whether all this work is essential.Some of it is when there has been an accident etc.

In truth I can afford financially to not work for a while,however if I decided to not turn up i would be dropping teammates in the shit because they'd have to cover my job.
 
i8rags said:
If you get a new cough or high temp, if not no.
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The other parties in the situation could have all caught it independently, the event which took place where our friends saw this girl was a house gathering two weeks ago, no one else that attended has symptoms.

We’re a week and four days since we saw them also.

Just wanted to see what other people thought as it’s a loose chance of us being risky to others.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Is any of the above actually true though mate? I am not sure it is. The Chinese were telling the world about this from early January. Take a look at the timeline here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2019–20_coronavirus_pandemic_in_November_2019_–_January_2020#1_January_2020

I don't think they were lying to the WHO when in reality they had 1,000's of cases. And heck, even if they did, it was in Japan by late Jan, and other countries similar time. We knew it was coming and did bugger all for well over a month.
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yep and at that stage china and Japan’s borders should have been shut down for a month but no.....
 
MOT exemptions for private vehicle owners

The transport secretary has announced cars, motorcycles and vans will not need to have an MOT test from 30 March.

This will be for six months.

Grant Shapps said this will "enable vital services such as deliveries to continue, frontline workers to get to work, and people to get essential food and medicine".

Owners have been told that vehicles must be kept in a roadworthy condition, and garages remain open for essential repair work.

Drivers can still be prosecuted for driving unsafe vehicles - and people should still be staying at home and avoiding travel.

If you cannot get an MOT before 30 March because you are in self-isolation the Department for Transport said it is working with insurers and police to ensure drivers are not unfairly penalised for things out of their control.

Practical driving tests and annual MOTs for lorries, buses and coaches were suspended for three months on 20
 
About 170,000 people sign up for the NHS volunteers scheme

The initiative to get people to help during the crisis was only announced on Monday evening.

In just over 12 hours tens of thousands of people have signed up, the NHS said.



No evictions for three months - likely to continue for longer

The government announced last week renters would not be allowed to be evicted for three months.

Housing secretary Robert Jenrick told Sky News' Kay Burley@Breakfast the government is passing emergency legislation at the moment which "brings a moritorium to evictions for the next three months".

He said renters will not be able to be taken to court or forced out of their home.

The government has arranged a £3m holiday for buy to let landlords so they have a mechanism to go to their own bank to ask for a mortgage holiday.

He added that the government is working with the judiciary and has asked all courts and judges to ensure public health comes first.

Addressing concerns those affected by coronavirus could be evicted after the three months, he added: "It's unlikely if you're going to be turfed out of your home after that three months.

"Landlords, please do the right thing, support everybody through this time - certainly those on the frontline in the NHS.
 
So Prince Charles has it - just working out how many of the Royal Family he needs to fatally infect until Prince Andrew is King!
 
Chippy_boy said:
Looking at the situation in South Korea, they have about the same number of cases as us, and one third of the deaths. But whereas their situation is relatively under control, our infection rates are rising exponentially.

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How on EARTH have we allowed this to happen? 1 month ago, we had 1 case in the UK whilst their infections were shooting up. A week later they had their under control, with their regime of testing, testing, testing, tracing and isolating. And we did fuck all other than saying "wash your hands". And now look at the fucking mess we are in. It makes me REALLY angry.
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Because...
(A) We trusted China. Those who had experience of the SARS outbreak didn't and are much better off as a result. The country that trusted them the least, Taiwan, is best off of all.
(B) Global air travel. You shut it down on day 1 of epidemics to countries/regions with cases. Not wave through those who are not yet ill. You enforce personal isolation too.
(C) The stats for the viral spread in the west are MUCH worse than in China. A combination of the aging population and the fact that older people in the west tend to live together.
(D) The administration in the NHS and Civil Service moves at glacial velocities. Not only that, they are more incompetent than their private sector equivalents.
(E) Our population and that in the west is generally selfish. If you look at what was actually happening in Lombardy when it was supposedly in lockdown and you will see that it wasn't until 5 days later that they actually were.
(F) The decision to NOT enforce face masks on public transport is just total stupidity. Yes, they dont stop you getting it - that is indeed down to personal hygiene - but they do reduce your droplet aerosol export range from two yards to 6 inches. So they stop you spreading it!

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(G) Lack of testing. The main thing but all the others count.
 
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A total of 3,434 coronavirus patients have now have died in Spain - more than the recorded number of deaths in China where the outbreak began.

Spain now has the world's second-highest tally of COVID-19 deaths after 738 more were reported on Wednesday, the country's deadliest toll in one day.

With 3,434 coronavirus patients dead, Spain surpassed China's toll of 3,285.

Italy still has the most deaths of any nation in the world with 6,820.

Infections in Spain rose 20% from a day earlier to 47,610
 
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