UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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I doubt if they asked for his opinion.
Tbh, I doubt he even cares that much. He was an Arsenal player, came to City for management education when his playing career ended and went back to Arsenal at the first opportunity. I think it’s clear where his loyalties lie.
 
Manchester City believe Arsenal are behind the plot to have their European ban upheld if the COVID-19 crisis prevents an appeal. Arsenal will inform Manchester City that their information is false if the Etihad club contact them directly about the matter

City officials have information from trusted sources that the move was instigated by Arsenal – and are angry that Liverpool joined Man United, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves and Burnley in an attempt to pressure CAS. Arsenal refused to comment on the suggestion

@MirrorFootball

Probably john cross so might not be true

I would be surprised if we were seen to be ring leaders
 
Remember when Real Madrid were in the galactico stage? No-one seemed to give a fuck about ruining football at that time.
All's fair when the Spanish Council are purchasing a 3m x 3m bit of training ground wasteland from you for about £300m(?) back in the day.

Back then, football was football and on a level playing field...........












Oh, and I'll just leave this here;

;-)
 
The UK's realationship with the EU has nothing at all to do with this matter. TfEU was in no way a European imposition but is rather a statement of commercial law as it existed in western European capitalist, free market economies at the time. Ever since 1945 at least every free economy in Europe has seen investment and competition as the only way to reconstruction and prosperity. British airlines were fined massively for acting as a cartel to force Freddy Laker out of business in the 1960s and attempts to prevent investment have always been illegal. TfEU simply stated clearly and unambiguously that these anti competitive practices were, as they had been for many years, unlawful throughout the EU, including those new members from the old Soviet bloc. The ECJ will be no more sympathetic to UEFA and the cartel than our courts, or vice versa after this year.
Your Freddie Laker timescale is way out. He went bust in 1981 not in the 1960s. I am not aware that British Airways were fined at all although they certainly were operating in an anti-competitive manner.

Laker did sue BA, TWA, PanAm for Predatory Pricing. That involved undercutting Laker’s fares to an unsustainably low figure. Laker’s organisation was lean and he could make profits, BA were not. Even with 100% loads they would still have lost money because of their bureaucratic structure. They didn’t need to be sustainable as Laker was forced out of business very quickly and the fares went up again.

The action never came to Court as BA, etc, basically bribed Laker to settle out of court by offering big bags of money.

Not unlike the situation City are in today! Force City out of the game and allow the likes of Milan, United, and Arsenal to resume their hereditary places.
 
I wouldn’t for one second defend the spineless Platini, but he did, pre ffp as we know it, show a good deal of concern about club debts. In fact he even went as far as to label certain clubs ‘cheats’ for playing in European competition whilst running huge debts. He named 2 clubs in England as examples- one from London and one quite close to us geographically!
To me, nothing illustrates the dead hand of gill and his gang behind the scenes better, than the almost polar opposite version of ffp that we see now, compared to the one that the testicularly challenged Platini had sought.
But he got his big fat cheque eventually so everything’s fine in uefa land.
This is much closer to the mark than the post by@Jam Tomorrow.
1. FFP was invented to stop Chelsea, or at least inspired by their activity. Abramovich, however, got in under the wire. We followed soon after but were caught by it before we had completed our new built side.
2. Platini intended to stop debt being used to create an advantage but G14 refused to play ball. MANU, Arsenal, Barca, Real were big debtors at the time. The P&L based version was largely invented in the Real boardroom and Platini just had to swallow it or G14 would have set up their own Eurocomp.
3 Gross debt still rising. Manu, Barca, Real still lead the way. For political and social reasons the debts of the Spanish clubs will never be called in, but Manu is a different proposition. Uefa report net debt, which relies on some doubtful asset values, so Barca and Real are not in net debt. Current gross debt of these three is approx £2bn.
 
Manchester City believe Arsenal are behind the plot to have their European ban upheld if the COVID-19 crisis prevents an appeal. Arsenal will inform Manchester City that their information is false if the Etihad club contact them directly about the matter

City officials have information from trusted sources that the move was instigated by Arsenal – and are angry that Liverpool joined Man United, Chelsea, Leicester, Wolves and Burnley in an attempt to pressure CAS. Arsenal refused to comment on the suggestion

@MirrorFootball

Probably john cross so might not be true
 
Feel free for Arsenal fans to remind us who has sponsored their shirts and stadium for so long?

It seems not all oil money is as dirty as ours.

Perhaps Liverpool and United fans can also get together and ask the same of their teams regularly setting up training camps in such a filthy oil region.

NFL cartel wankers.
 
Why do you sasy that Jack ?

Arsenal have previous form iirc and Wenger was always bitching about us and our finances etc. Not that he was a bitter fucker or anything like that.


Because if we’d had your money we would have done the same

In principle I don’t have a problem with City - how else is anyone going to be able to dine at the top table?

Frankly all those clubs who complain about City’s spending are being a bit disingenuous - and for Chelsea and Man Yoo to complain - ridiculous

Talk about ‘do as I say not as I do’ - the hypocrisy is disgusting

I hope my club are not involved in this - if they are, then I think they’re in the wrong

However UEFA is primarily a vehicle to protect Real, Barca, Bayern

I’d say it’s those 3 that pack the bigger punch than English clubs
 
I’m just watching The English Game on Netflix. In episode 4 the reaction of the establishment to the emergence of the new teams, Blackburn, Preston and Bolton , is very interesting. One of the Old Etonian players who also happens to be on the Board of the FA says “I’ll have them expelled”

Sound familiar ?

Plus ca change !
 
Because if we’d had your money we would have done the same

In principle I don’t have a problem with City - how else is anyone going to be able to dine at the top table?

Frankly all those clubs who complain about City’s spending are being a bit disingenuous - and for Chelsea and Man Yoo to complain - ridiculous

Talk about ‘do as I say not as I do’ - the hypocrisy is disgusting

I hope my club are not involved in this - if they are, then I think they’re in the wrong

However UEFA is primarily a vehicle to protect Real, Barca, Bayern

I’d say it’s those 3 that pack the bigger punch than English clubs

You do have our money the difference is your owner want spend it! If we have been self sufficient for 4 years spending our well earned premier sponsor European money!
 
You do have our money the difference is your owner want spend it! If we have been self sufficient for 4 years spending our well earned premier sponsor European money!

Hypocrites. They even let Bruce Rioch spend £7m on David Platt.

Kept quiet for years that Ozil was the highest paid player in Britain on £315k a week.

It was less than two years ago Wenger was offering £91m for Thomas Lemar.

Asharvin, Giroud, Reyes (Rip), Pepe, Lacazette, Aubameyang, all massive bench setting fees of the period.
 
Because if we’d had your money we would have done the same

True, but it's amazing how bitter and twisted jealousy can make you, when it's not you who got the money.
In truth, City have meant somebody will miss out on the cash-cow that is the CL... and certain teams seemed to be of the opinion they have the god-given right to be part of that cash-cow!
 
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