COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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What do you mean "after all"? It was always the case and never in doubt. What did you think we needed the ventilators for, room perfume?

EDIT: LIstening to the news, seems I am mistaken. My apologies.

I had thought a CPAP machine was a ventilator. Seems not, although I have no ideas what the difference is.
No worries. A few of us have home CPAP machines for sleep apppnia and were discussing on here(a few days ago)why they hadnt been recalled. Some doubted their effectiveness but the news story seems to cover the bases. Apparently 10 of thousands of CPAP machines are in general use in homes.
 
Ridiculous if true


Not the first time I’ve heard this. Didn’t someone on this very forum say that was exactly their experience when returning to Britain n’all?

This government is far too wishy-washy and inconsistent. One minute saying one thing, then another, telling everyone to socially distance but having 30+ people in a room for press conferences and then all of the top people fighting this have all got it, no mass testing, complete lack of PPE in hospital, flights coming in with no quarantine...

It’s like a fucking joke!

Come the end of this I have no doubt we will be #2 in the world behind the USA for deaths and we will look like a bunch of morons.
 
Airlines are holding our cash to ransom, easyJet another airline to ground until June and remove refund button from booking site.
Ryanair ground til June. Still asking for my balance in full even though I’m going in may.
Government should announce solidly no flight til at least June if not longer and under law should automatically refund customers.
Clear guidelines and a cash injection back to many who are struggling.
Did you honestly expect any different? When have airlines ever behaved with anything other than with maximising profits being at the very core of their operational ethos - and fuck the paying customer. They take every chance to squeeze every last penny out of punters. It’s completely ingrained.
 
Did you honestly expect any different? When have airlines ever behaved with anything other than with maximising profits being at the very core of their operational ethos - and fuck the paying customer. They take every chance to squeeze every last penny out of punters. It’s completely ingrained.
IF we are to bail any out - and it’s a big if - the govt should take a stake, which could be sold later. They shouldn’t get a free lunch.
 
Prof Neil Ferguson has said this morning the the rate of infection may be slowing, apparently new hospital admissions are slowing. Obviously this won’t be reflected in the number of deaths for a couple of weeks though.
 
Prof Neil Ferguson has said this morning the the rate of infection may be slowing, apparently new hospital admissions are slowing. Obviously this won’t be reflected in the number of deaths for a couple of weeks though.

would be good if true. These predictions are all over the place though
 
So what is the way forward with this that prevents a complete economic collapse? This is what I think it looks like..

The current lockdown will be extended by say a further three weeks and this will reduce the spread of CV & allow the NHS to be in a better position to cope.

A combination of testing to see if someone has it and potentially a test to see if they have had it will be ramped up. This will enable more frontline NHS staff to work initially but in the medium term more people will will be able to work knowing they have had it.

Treatments that can reduce the severity of CV will be found and utilised.

At this point I think the lockdown will be sufficiently eased to allow businesses to reopen but people will still need to adopt social distancing as much as is practical. A reduced level of CV will still be present for months to come but that will be low enough to cope with.

The end game is when a mass produced vaccine is available maybe late this year / early next year.
 
Do you ever give the Mr. Contrary act a rest? You should try it.

I think we have to be cautious of spreading misinformation- as that can be harmful. Not pointing to those on here that have witnessed this - but twitter links without proof is something to be careful about that’s all.
 
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