COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[oakiecokie]

its definatly something that would get a fine. but its not "same family", its "Same household".

Sorry yes it was a bad piece of wording from myself and thats what I meant grunge.

 

[grunge]

You're right there some things which are not seeming to add up here and I'm definitely one for tin foil hats... Have a look at this article from the L.A. Times about a choir that used hand sanitizer and observed social distancing. On the 10th March, 60 singers showed up and 45 of them tested positive, 23 hospitalised and 2 died.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

Isn't it well known now that this can travel at least by droplet spread, and there is a lot of reports of partial aroesol.

if I recall, they recommend 1m distance between people for droplet. Our gov is telling people to stay 2m apart.

 

[M18CTID]

I did say to the missus that I hadn`t heard about this,but I suppose in reality it does make sense.However my arguments would be that if working together (its only an 8 man company) then its just as likely to catch the virus anyway.Maybe the young bloke is using it as an excuse (and thats fair enough if he is) but you have to ask why it isn`t being enforced.Maybe it is ??

Yeah, it's the first I've heard of it. As you say, it does make sense in a way but the counter-argument is, again as you say, a small company where people can keep their distance shouldn't have too many issues with people catching and spreading it. I only asked because I get a lift to work off one guy and a lift home off another. It's a 12-mile round trip for me otherwise!

 

[BlueAnorak]

Humans in the Forest of Dean are a strange bunch.

6 fingers and 3 nipples is quite a common occurrence.
Being serious for a minute though, coupled with Monmouthshire, they DO have a genetic heritage different than the rest of the country. (Purple on the genetic map)
https://www.nature.com/news/uk-mapped-out-by-genetic-ancestry-1.17136

 

[Ban-jani]

I’ve been PM’ing a poster on here and he’s just shared a video with me of a Korean Doctor. In the video he states immunity isn’t guaranteed and there’ve seen numbers of people coming back with symptoms, after already having it and recovering days earlier.

Does anyone know more?

This is potentially awful for European strategy.

 

[paulchapo]

You're right there some things which are not seeming to add up here and I'm definitely one for tin foil hats... Have a look at this article from the L.A. Times about a choir that used hand sanitizer and observed social distancing. On the 10th March, 60 singers showed up and 45 of them tested positive, 23 hospitalised and 2 died.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

I would say 60 people in a room social distancing or not would add to the risk, especially with the overload theory, say if ten or more already had it. Also singing would expel more moisture into the air.

 

[i8rags]

agree With most of that and that the general trend will be from the domestic market going forward but pubs and restaurants booming this year? Not sure about that. Factor in that this is a two way street and that the number of overseas visitors will be a patch on previous years then that’s going to severely dent the hospitality sector - I can’t see the pubs and restaurants in Hazel Grove and in the city center just as one small example getting my custom this year 3 or 4 times for the first time since I can remember sadly.

Good news though is one less tourist in the stadium to contend with :-)

also add to that the economic consequences ( people will feel poorer without a doubt just by looking at their pension fund values for a start) I suspect it will be well into next year before we see numbers anywhere near 2019.

I am a partner in a restaurant in Devon, my brother runs it whilst I’m stuck up here, we open four nights a week, closed at present. we are totally booked online from 1st June into July.
My brother is on the tourist board in the English riviera, hoteliers, caravan parks etc are showing massive growth in bookings as the public are clearly planning a uk summer and booking early before the mass release from lockdown.
Granted hazel grove etc might be a different scenario, although I believe most will be gagging to get out.

 

[grunge]

I’ve been PM’ing a poster on here and he’s just shared a video with me of a Korean Doctor. In the video he states immunity isn’t guaranteed and there’ve seen numbers of people coming back with symptoms, after already having it and recovering days earlier.

Does anyone know more?

This is potentially awful for European strategy.

there has been a lot of reports of this but latest thoughts ( Dr Campbell videos last week ) is that this is actually false negatives on the tests, that the virus can linger for a few weeks and ramp back up a bit and show in tests then.

 

[oakiecokie]

Yeah, it's the first I've heard of it. As you say, it does make sense in a way but the counter-argument is, again as you say, a small company where people can keep their distance shouldn't have too many issues with people catching and spreading it. I only asked because I get a lift to work off one guy and a lift home off another. It's a 12-mile round trip for me otherwise!

Thankfully his Company are very big on H & S.They do ensure that the workforce keep their distance and likewise any outside contract drivers who come into the yard are asked to stay in their cabs until loading/unloading is complete,so that they also can do all their necessary work before leaving but not in the company of the workforce.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

I’ve been PM’ing a poster on here and he’s just shared a video with me of a Korean Doctor. In the video he states immunity isn’t guaranteed and there’ve seen numbers of people coming back with symptoms, after already having it and recovering days earlier.

Does anyone know more?

This is potentially awful for European strategy.

Do you mean “know” or do you mean”share unattributable, unverifiable videos off social media”?

 

[shackattack]

What’s not acceptable is lying to other countries about this kind of thing and lying to the WHO.[/QUOTE]

You're right there some things which are not seeming to add up here and I'm definitely one for tin foil hats... Have a look at this article from the L.A. Times about a choir that used hand sanitizer and observed social distancing. On the 10th March, 60 singers showed up and 45 of them tested positive, 23 hospitalised and 2 died.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

the shincheonji church in south korea was responsible for around 2,000 cases all spread from one individual who had symptoms but attended the church

 

[i8rags]

Not being able to taste food or smell anything is very weird. Food is literally just texture, the minute I can taste again I’m getting the local pizza shop to drop off the biggest fucker they do.

Surely you’d get the tastiest one.

 

[Vic]

....Again you’re not taking in what’s being said. Their evidence was messages being relayed that doctors were picking it up - THIS IS EVIDENCE.

I hope you're never on a jury.

 

[BlueAnorak]

I have said for a couple of weeks now I don't think this is being passed on solely person to person.
As for hot weather it has pissed down nearly every day since lockdown : (

The Coronavirus is a distant relative of the common cold so I would say the aerosol is highly likely to hang around in the air for a while.
Another reason to enforce the wearing of masks if you have to be closer than 6 feet from someone else.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

How were the people who have had it on here tested? Most people I know who “have” it have rang up, told them their symptoms and then been told they are “very likely” to have it and told to isolate.

They haven’t, unless they have been admitted to hospital or are outside the UK.

 

[i8rags]

Tomorrow’s debate. At the moment everyone is congratulating the government for handing out all this free money. Well at some stage the bill for this is landing on the mat, and whose going to pay?

The rich.

 

[i8rags]

You're right there some things which are not seeming to add up here and I'm definitely one for tin foil hats... Have a look at this article from the L.A. Times about a choir that used hand sanitizer and observed social distancing. On the 10th March, 60 singers showed up and 45 of them tested positive, 23 hospitalised and 2 died.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

I presume this choir were singing, I presume the we’re using their mouths. I also presume they were breathing.

 

[Ban-jani]

Do you mean “know” or do you mean”share unattributable, unverifiable videos off social media”?

It was a video where they interviewed a Korean Doctor.

 

[Vic]

You're right there some things which are not seeming to add up here and I'm definitely one for tin foil hats... Have a look at this article from the L.A. Times about a choir that used hand sanitizer and observed social distancing. On the 10th March, 60 singers showed up and 45 of them tested positive, 23 hospitalised and 2 died.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-03-29/coronavirus-choir-outbreak

Obvious who's responsible there. "A few helped themselves to mandarins that had been put out on a table in back."

 

[AlgarveBlu]

I am a partner in a restaurant in Devon, my brother runs it whilst I’m stuck up here, we open four nights a week, closed at present. we are totally booked online from 1st June into July.
My brother is on the tourist board in the English riviera, hoteliers, caravan parks etc are showing massive growth in bookings as the public are clearly planning a uk summer and booking early before the mass release from lockdown.
Granted hazel grove etc might be a different scenario, although I believe most will be gagging to get out.

Pleased for you as I know it's a worry for some in the hospitality industry, maybe we will see anomalies in the country that are more heavily dependent upon overseas visitors but hopefully a degree of normality can return by next year for all.