Because it’s hard work. People in the UK who want to work in agriculture already do. The whole social construct of UK society is not conducive to attracting people brought up in towns and cities to want to do hard manual work in the fields.Totally - but why?
Do you think people who have been “enlisted” against their will would do a decent job?Well if they're able bodied, and aren't working, they should be "enlisted" to do so.
Do you think people who have been “enlisted” against their will would do a decent job?
The reality is that, ignoring the pandemic, unemployment is low and everyone who is willing to travel for work is already working. Job losses due to the pandemic might change that but it’s not going to be solved overnight.
Good to know that the hysteria surrounding job losses due to brexit was without foundation, and also the danger of UK crops not being picked due to no EU labour is also not happening then.Do you think people who have been “enlisted” against their will would do a decent job?
The reality is that, ignoring the pandemic, unemployment is low and everyone who is willing to travel for work is already working. Job losses due to the pandemic might change that but it’s not going to be solved overnight.
Possibly. I lived for a while in Lincolnshire and the pubs during the day were full of locals on benefits whining about Poles etc 'coming over here and taking our jobs', but they seemed to not be in that much of a hurry to give up benefits to pick sprouts in a field all day in Winter.Because it’s hard work. People in the UK who want to work in agriculture already do. The whole social construct of UK society is not conducive to attracting people brought up in towns and cities to want to do hard manual work in the fields.
We haven’t left yet.Good to know that the hysteria surrounding job losses due to brexit was without foundation, and also the danger of UK crops not being picked due to no EU labour is also not happening then.
I tried saying that yesterday, but was told I was wrong. Cant win it seems ;-)We haven’t left yet.
We will be still operating as if we haven’t left for a year or two yet.I tried saying that yesterday, but was told I was wrong. Cant win it seems ;-)
Yes, we have. The EU themselves lists 27 members. The UK is not one of them.We haven’t left yet.
We’ll see at the end of transition. Or rather we would have done had the economy not suffered the effects of the pandemic making the effects of Brexit difficult to separate out.Good to know that the hysteria surrounding job losses due to brexit was without foundation, and also the danger of UK crops not being picked due to no EU labour is also not happening then.
Well there's the veg....What have they ever done for us?
I know, I'm still recovering from the massive changes that 31/12 triggered. Everything is so much more... er, sovereign.Yes, we have. The EU themselves lists 27 members. The UK is not one of them.
https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/countries_en
But would they still want to come? We can't even promise them PPE let alone the same rights as Dr Camporata came with 20 years ago.That’s someone who would still be allowed into the country in future immigration laws n’all.
Possibly. I lived for a while in Lincolnshire and the pubs during the day were full of locals on benefits whining about Poles etc 'coming over here and taking our jobs', but they seemed to not be in that much of a hurry to give up benefits to pick sprouts in a field all day in Winter.
I assume farming businesses are paying minimum wage, though they might be taking accomodation costs out, not sure, anyway they wouldn’t choose between paying more for labour and profit, it would be pay more for labour and charge more for the produce. Unless every farm does it it isn’t achievable. Either way I don’t think we have a bigger enough labour market that want to do it whatever the wage, don’t forget a lot of those needing work are in cities so would need to be accommodated in the farms.British people are some of the hardest working people in Europe. There are lots of people doing 12hour shifts (manual labour), fed up of hearing that lazy argument from some
I’d also so these jobs such ‘picking sprouts all day’ are impossible for most people. The wages are incredibly low and not feasible for people with families. If farmers actually want British people to do them maybe they could pay an actual wage or some of these other business’s could think about people rather then cheap labour and profit .....
Absolutely, but apparently these jobs in Norfolk are £15 an hour, plus private jet travel fro Romania!British people are some of the hardest working people in Europe. There are lots of people doing 12hour shifts (manual labour), fed up of hearing that lazy argument from some
I’d also so these jobs such ‘picking sprouts all day’ are impossible for most people. The wages are incredibly low and not feasible for people with families. If farmers actually want British people to do them maybe they could pay an actual wage or some of these other business’s could think about people rather then cheap labour and profit .....
You assume wrongly.I assume farming businesses are paying minimum wage, though they might be taking accomodation costs out, not sure, anyway they wouldn’t choose between paying more for labour and profit, it would be pay more for labour and charge more for the produce. Unless every farm does it it isn’t achievable. Either way I don’t think we have a bigger enough labour market that want to do it whatever the wage, don’t forget a lot of those needing work are in cities so would need to be accommodated in the farms.
He might be allowed, but would he choose to come?That’s someone who would still be allowed into the country in future immigration laws n’all.