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More than 100 NHS staff united to pay an emotional tribute to a nurse who was fighting for her life after contracting coronavirus - as she left intensive care after 23 days
Video showed visibly tearful doctors and fellow nurses lining the corridors of Conquest Hospital, in Hastings, to clap and cheer Uma Pradhan as she was moved to a normal ward to continue her recovery from COVID-19.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-leaves-intensive-care-after-23-days-11976040
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Anyone want to buy some oil? Going really cheap in the states. I mean really cheap.
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saw the guy on CNBC commenting it having a stroke when it actually went negative - like a scene out of trading places when Randolph Duke saw his position long of oranges juice collapse on his margin call
 
Gelsons Dad said:
The peak cases was a month ago. Peak mortality 12 days ago.

There is no point ramping up testing to 100,000 a day anymore they can't find anyone to test now.
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There is plenty of people to test,there needs to be a portacabin at every main hosp in the country,expecting nhs staff to drive a long way to get tested is a nonsense,make it easy,they didn't want to test after early march so now they don't have it set up properly,people were getting turned away because of red tape,it has been a massive fuck up
 
karen7 said:
There is plenty of people to test,there needs to be a portacabin at every main hosp in the country,expecting nhs staff to drive a long way to get tested is a nonsense,make it easy,they didn't want to test after early march so now they don't have it set up properly,people were getting turned away because of red tape,it has been a massive fuck up
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exactly the case. They are in out of town shopping centre car parks and the like and you have to drive there. I saw a nursing home manager interviewed on Friday saying all 22 of her staff were available for testing but the site is miles away and I think it was 14 of them don't drive anyway.
 
Gelsons Dad said:
The peak cases was a month ago. Peak mortality 12 days ago.

There is no point ramping up testing to 100,000 a day anymore they can't find anyone to test now.
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If they tested everyone instantly today then we'd instantly know if the current lockdown needs to remain in place.

The greater question on testing is has 1% of the population had it or has 50% of the population had it because we have no idea. If it's the latter then we are good to go in a few weeks and go back to normality, if not then a second wave and further deaths is likely.

The only way to find this all out is to mass test.
 
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It’s what happens with financial commentators or traders when they see asset price movements act wildly (normally negatively) especially when it goes into uncharted territory - u.s crude oil prices temporarily turned negative for the first time ever in history today. Reminiscent of the scenes on the trading floor in the movie trading places with Eddie Murphy

summary a monumental day in the history of oil on the markets
 
Antibodies and whether we produce them has been discussed a few times on here, but here's an article from Professor Karol Sikora, a pretty respected voice, on the subject. He thinks people aren't producing antibodies, meaning herd immunity is out of the question potentially.

He doesn't mention whether the tests have low sensitivity and if that could be why. You'd presume he would offer that disclaimer if its a possible reason, but he doesn't, suggesting he doesn't think that's the case? Bit concerning.


https://www.hospitaltimes.co.uk/testing-is-the-key-to-defeating-this-pandemic/
 
asahartford1 said:
It is a lot easier to criticise the decisions that have been made. Not quite as easy to make the decisions that need to be made tomorrow.
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Plenty of people, if not most people, thought some of these decisions were fucking madness at the time they were being made. The hindsight argument doesn't wash.
 
BosnianBlue said:
Common cold is a nothing disease so it's not profitable to spend billions of dollars and scientific human resources to make a vaccine, and billions to regularly use it each year. It's silly to compare that to this one which paralyzed whole world. It's seriously silly. Borderline stupid. This one is not comparable with regular flu which is much harder than common cold. Even SARS and MERS, who are seriously dangerous fuckers, stopped getting a financing as soon as they stopped spreading.

And the most important thing of all is that nobody still has fuck all idea if you actually get immune once you had it, so the herd immunity approach is nothing but a bet at the moment.
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I wasn't trying to compare the seriousness of Covid-19 and the common cold, or even the flu. I was merely pointing out they are of the same family. As with most viruses some immunity will develop and combined with an eventual vaccine will give us herd immunity that we need. It's all a question of time. I don't think we could survive this type of lockdown for that long so there will have to be some trade off.
 
AlgarveBlu said:
It’s what happens with financial commentators or traders when they see asset price movements act wildly (normally negatively) especially when it goes into uncharted territory - u.s crude oil prices temporarily turned negative for the first time ever in history today. Reminiscent of the scenes on the trading floor in the movie trading places with Eddie Murphy

summary a monumental day in the history of oil on the markets
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In layman’s, why would it turn negative? I assume that means they would effectively pay the person to take their oil? Why not just flush it away, or is it more expensive to get rid of than that?

edit...can ignore, I chose to read up on it myself.
 
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Bit of a random bit of news that some may know already admittedly. Anyway, they're testing higher doses of anticoagulants in the north-west now as a means to treat severe cases. Heard this from someone close to me who works in the NHS. There's been reports of this working in Italy. Fingers crossed hey.
 
MCFC_ Phil said:
I wasn't trying to compare the seriousness of Covid-19 and the common cold, or even the flu. I was merely pointing out they are of the same family. As with most viruses some immunity will develop and combined with an eventual vaccine will give us herd immunity that we need. It's all a question of time. I don't think we could survive this type of lockdown for that long so there will have to be some trade off.
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The scientist said based on other viruses we should get immunity,not much evidence so far and the WHO has been saying for a few weeks it is not a given
 
Gelsons Dad said:
The peak cases was a month ago. Peak mortality 12 days ago.

There is no point ramping up testing to 100,000 a day anymore they can't find anyone to test now.
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Well there is if you want to wipe the disease out in the UK or play whackamole when we open up the economy again.
 
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My daughter did Covid-19 antibody plasma injections today for the first time today on newly admitted patients. She assumes her hospital is not doing the placebo as the effects were obvious in a couple of hours.
Of course it may be that healthy immune system cells are a help too!
 
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inbetween said:
If they tested everyone instantly today then we'd instantly know if the current lockdown needs to remain in place.

The greater question on testing is has 1% of the population had it or has 50% of the population had it because we have no idea. If it's the latter then we are good to go in a few weeks and go back to normality, if not then a second wave and further deaths is likely.

The only way to find this all out is to mass test.
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that’s a different test that’s an anti body test . A test have you got coronavirus is useful to test if people should work in the nhs if they have symptoms. It doesn’t get us out.

it’s an antibody test and we don’t have a reliable one yet otherwise we would be doing it.
 
Rammy Blue said:
In layman’s, why would it turn negative? I assume that means they would effectively pay the person to take their oil? Why not just flush it away, or is it more expensive to get rid of than that?

edit...can ignore, I chose to read up on it myself.
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storage costs basically due to over supply and no demand - a bit like the milk situation with farmers chucking it away down the drain but not so easy with oil unless you want to be on the end of one of Greta’s death stares
 
karen7 said:
Nice story

More than 100 NHS staff united to pay an emotional tribute to a nurse who was fighting for her life after contracting coronavirus - as she left intensive care after 23 days
Video showed visibly tearful doctors and fellow nurses lining the corridors of Conquest Hospital, in Hastings, to clap and cheer Uma Pradhan as she was moved to a normal ward to continue her recovery from COVID-19.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-leaves-intensive-care-after-23-days-11976040
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That's brilliant.
 
twosips said:
Antibodies and whether we produce them has been discussed a few times on here, but here's an article from Professor Karol Sikora, a pretty respected voice, on the subject. He thinks people aren't producing antibodies, meaning herd immunity is out of the question potentially.

He doesn't mention whether the tests have low sensitivity and if that could be why. You'd presume he would offer that disclaimer if its a possible reason, but he doesn't, suggesting he doesn't think that's the case? Bit concerning.


https://www.hospitaltimes.co.uk/testing-is-the-key-to-defeating-this-pandemic/
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But...
the tests that the UK did last week indicated that antibodies are generated but only in large numbers by those who get ill. Those who remain asymptomatic or are barely ill do generate them but not in large numbers.
 
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