COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Gelsons Dad said:
It's the governments opinion too as they have said from the beginning. Flatten the curve, squash the sombrero etc. No one has ever spoken of halting it completely.
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I think there's a clear distinction here though between on the one hand *wanting* there to be a continual level of infection (and necessarily therefore, death), such that eventually sufficient numbers have caught it and recovered and then we have achieved herd immunity; and on the other hand *accepting* that a certain continual level of infection and death is the inevitable outcome and the only practical outcome since we are not able to impose a total 100% lockdown. (Because we still need to eat, to buy drugs, to feed and look after the vulnerable etc).

I am pretty certain the government would like zero new infections and zero new deaths every day. It's just that is not realistic.
 
Vic said:
How much do you think premiums would be?

It's the holiday companies that will have to offer cancellable holidays if they want people to book.
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I only ever book holidays that offer free cancellation anyway. It’s just if you get stuck there when the third, fourth etc wave of the virus comes around that you’re screwed over.

The insurance companies probably have trillions locked way in accounts, funds, assets etc all around the world. Easy money when you don’t have to pay up for the biggest issues.
 
crooky said:
Just had a letter through saying that my holiday insurance won’t be covered for Coronavirus going forward.

I don’t get how insurance companies can get away with this. The minute they actually have to pay our money they decide not to cover it.

Can the holiday companies, tourist boards etc not demand that it is covered as otherwise people won’t be taking the risk to book holidays in 2021, 2022 etc when things will hopefully finally start to return fully to normal? Or maybe just sue the insurance companies for loss of earnings?
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I've had the same from my insurer. Fooking outrageous if you ask me. The ombudsman needs to step in and tell them to step up, or give people their years of contributions back.

Apparently Raymond Blanc had insurance to cover him in case of forced business closure due to outbreak of disease, and now after taking his money for like decades, the insurers are saying "ah, yes but we didn't mean Coronavirus so you are not covered". Shocking behaviour.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I've had the same from my insurer. Fooking outrageous if you ask me. The ombudsman needs to step in and tell them to step up, or give people their years of contributions back.

Apparently Raymond Blanc had insurance to cover him in case of forced business closure due to outbreak of disease, and now after taking his money for like decades, the insurers are saying "ah, yes but we didn't mean Coronavirus so you are not covered". Shocking behaviour.
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it is outrageous but are you really contemplating going on a holiday abroad anytime soon ?
 
BlueAnorak said:
They relaxed it to our level, but with face covering mandatory. So not much of a relaxation.
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Its a huge relaxation from where they were. Kids have not been allowed out for over six weeks and adults one at a time to go to shop for food, medicines or a hospital appointment. People could walk a dog but only close to where they lived.
 
paulchapo said:
Its a huge relaxation from where they were. Kids have not been allowed out for over six weeks and adults one at a time to go to shop for food, medicines or a hospital appointment. People could walk a dog but only close to where they lived.
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Though it's still more strict than us in the UK. That was the point I was making.
 
AlgarveBlu said:
Not scaremongering here and take a different view to you on this as I don't believe in being detached from the science that is prevailing here and as you mentioned that other viruses can also exhibit some of the conditions (not the typical pneumonia) that are being reported by physicians globally in recent mortalities; that in my opinion is additional information which are developing facts being reported on the ground which should be in the public domain with a caveat inserted in relation to the context of the number of cases as a ratio to all mortalities.

The NHS yesterday evening issued an urgent alert to all doctors that a serious covid-related condition may be appearing in children. Trust me this is the last thing as a parent that I want to bloody read but had seen some musings on this before in the Italian press but naturally they were fire fighting on a grand scale at the time to investigate with further analysis. Small numbers being reported, but serious enough for an alert to be issued so I do deem this newsworthy even if you can find parallels with the other viruses then there are a lot of parents like me want to know what we may potentially be dealing with here before making decisions on future schooling arrangements. Again shame we don't have a science specific thread for covid to discuss these elements.

An urgent alert issued to doctors has raised concerns that a serious coronavirus-related syndrome may be emerging in children in the UK.

The alert states that in the past three weeks there has been a rise in children being admitted to hospital with a syndrome that has the characteristics of serious Covid-19, according to the Health Service Journal. Children have so far been deemed to be at low risk of serious ill health from the virus.

The alert states:

“[In the] last three weeks, there has been an apparent rise in the number of children of all ages presenting with a multi-system inflammatory state requiring intensive care across London and also in other regions of the UK.

“There is a growing concern that a [Covid-19] related inflammatory syndrome is emerging in children in the UK, or that there may be another, as yet unidentified, infectious pathogen associated with these cases.”

There is little information about how widespread the condition is but the number of children affected is likely to be small, the HSJ reports. Some of the children have tested positive for Covid-19, and some appear to have previously had the virus, it adds.

The alert, first issued to GPs in north London, also describes the cases as showing features of toxic shock syndrome and Kawasaki disease, which causes blood vessels to become inflamed. It advised doctors to “refer children presenting with these symptoms as a matter of urgency”.

The Paediatric Intensive Care Society issued a separate “urgent alert” on Sunday evening.
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I saw it mate and as a parent of a 5 year old thought exactly the same. Once I read the alert and the numbers affected I'm a lot less concerned. That's coming from a parent who worries that she is going to develop sepsis with every temperature she gets!
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte said the lockdown measures would be relaxed from 4 May, with people being allowed to visit their relatives in small numbers.
Parks, factories and building sites will reopen.
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True_Blue69 said:
I saw it mate and as a parent of a 5 year old thought exactly the same. Once I read the alert and the numbers affected I'm a lot less concerned. That's coming from a parent who worries that she is going to develop sepsis with every temperature she gets!
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Only just heard about this new scare and I'm the same. I don't even like my children dipping their feet in the river on hot days lest they succumb to pretty nasty infections (and potentially deadly) from the water.
 
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