Centurions
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Bottle out of things? You really don't understand our owner.
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UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST
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Citizen Green
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It’s impossible as we’re not privy to all the facts and materials.can any legal expert here confirm we have the goods to fuck uefa in court or not ?
dickie davies
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We're not out to "fuck" UEFAcan any legal expert here confirm we have the goods to fuck uefa in court or not ?
We believe in UEFA as an institution but it is those who have undue influence and the conflict of interests we have the issues with
As far as we (us know nothings) are aware, the only evidence that UEFA's IC & AC have are the quotes from Der Spiegel, they apparently don't even have the full email trails
As for the non co operation charge. We will argue that we didn't give the investigators access because UEFA was leaking information like a sieve (The CAS has already commented on this saying it is worrisome) plus the IC didn't take into account our defence
CAS may just throw it out on poor procedures but I don't believe that would satisfy us as we will want full and final dismissal of all charges with a statement from CAS of absolutely no evidence to substantiate a case and then heavy criticism of the IC and AC
On the other hand nothing in legal systems is certain (apart from lawyers getting richer) so CAS may uphold the punishment, or maybe dismiss the charges regarding misleading UEFA but uphold the charges of non cooperation
Akpowell
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Bottle out of things? You really don't understand our owner.
I think I do
prestonibbo_mcfc
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It doesn't matter if there is any legal expert on board, they would have to know all the detail of our appeal and nobody apart from the club, know that.can any legal expert here confirm we have the goods to fuck uefa in court or not ?
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Think your thinking of John Cross now hes a twatI’m not sure if you could be further off the mark tbh.
nmc
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What’s the general opinion of everyone on the outcome??, reduced to a one year ban??
No we are innocent so no ban at all. I hope this gets heard quickly and we are exonerated. Then UEFA can internally combust.
I think it’s obvious to most City fans and the vast majority of neutrals that they have come up with the 2 year ban probably knowing it would be quashed if 1 year, but they feel they have a good chance of it being reduced to a year. I just hope we have video evidence of Ceferin offering a fine and slap on the wrist offer to play to the panel...What’s the general opinion of everyone on the outcome??, reduced to a one year ban??
Kinkys Left Foot
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Taking into account the statement from the CEO regarding our innocence of all the charges with regard to breaching FFP I cannot see how we can accept any judgement of wrongdoing resulting in any form of ban or fine. If we do accept any such derevation I would expect his resignation as by accepting such we will have admitted we did wrong and he will be painted as a liar. Not sure his position would be tenable.
I've looked at the evidence as presented by der Spiegel previously and if neither we as a club or persons involved have given further evidence (which is what I suspect given the none compliance charge) or Etihad have divulged anything further then UEFA will have struggled to ascertain any further credible evidence as to our guilt of the alleged charges. I have tried to reconcile this with the fact that their evidence has allegedly been examined by a selection of high court judges within the IAC who have declared we have a substantial case to answer. The two sets of facts do not balance well meaning either they have more evidence than given credit for, although it's current source remains unknown, or the IAC judges have come to decisions totally without justification and questions as to impartiality would have to asked.
In any event CAS decisions are made public and it will make interesting reading. It should mean that all the evidence is laid bare for all to see. If we are innocent and this is upheld, it should mean that those responsible for the witch hunt are exposed and should lose their jobs as a minimum. I am unsure that if certain facts are revealed which would normally not be available to the general public if they would be included in any such summation or if they would be redacted on account of company privacy.
If it is our CEO and others proven to be at fault, then internally heads should roll and we will be finished in the short term. A Premier League investigation may follow the sanctions from which are unimaginable. There may even be criminal charges as we will have been caught cooking the books, which is a criminal offence.
The whole perception of the clubs integrity worldwide and by association HH SM and Abu Dhabi is at stake, make no mistake we cannot be found guilty by CAS as the repercussions don't bear thinking about. If you think our press is bad now just imagine the indignation from the written and rest of the press pack should we be proven guilty. (By any degree). Nothing less than full exhoneration is required.
The reckoning approaches.
I've looked at the evidence as presented by der Spiegel previously and if neither we as a club or persons involved have given further evidence (which is what I suspect given the none compliance charge) or Etihad have divulged anything further then UEFA will have struggled to ascertain any further credible evidence as to our guilt of the alleged charges. I have tried to reconcile this with the fact that their evidence has allegedly been examined by a selection of high court judges within the IAC who have declared we have a substantial case to answer. The two sets of facts do not balance well meaning either they have more evidence than given credit for, although it's current source remains unknown, or the IAC judges have come to decisions totally without justification and questions as to impartiality would have to asked.
In any event CAS decisions are made public and it will make interesting reading. It should mean that all the evidence is laid bare for all to see. If we are innocent and this is upheld, it should mean that those responsible for the witch hunt are exposed and should lose their jobs as a minimum. I am unsure that if certain facts are revealed which would normally not be available to the general public if they would be included in any such summation or if they would be redacted on account of company privacy.
If it is our CEO and others proven to be at fault, then internally heads should roll and we will be finished in the short term. A Premier League investigation may follow the sanctions from which are unimaginable. There may even be criminal charges as we will have been caught cooking the books, which is a criminal offence.
The whole perception of the clubs integrity worldwide and by association HH SM and Abu Dhabi is at stake, make no mistake we cannot be found guilty by CAS as the repercussions don't bear thinking about. If you think our press is bad now just imagine the indignation from the written and rest of the press pack should we be proven guilty. (By any degree). Nothing less than full exhoneration is required.
The reckoning approaches.
blue aura
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What’s the general opinion of everyone on the outcome??, reduced to a one year ban??
City's going down with a billion in the bank
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