COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[quiet_riot]

(A third of primary school teachers have never stopped working because they look after the children of key workers.)

NONE of them have stopped working as we've had to sort home learning, online classes, school meals, safeguarding, child protection etc.

 

[stonerblue]

the trouble is the police are in a bad situation with the law, mass gatherings they should be legaly able to disperse them, social distancing is not law and they can do nothing if people decide not to distance,i agree 100% with your post

I'm pretty sure that under legislation passed during the rave explosion (repetitive beats) just 2 people constitutes a 'mass gathering'

 

[nellyonthewing]

All our staff have been working every day since lockdown, some in school with key worker/vulnerable children, the others providing online learning. Every day.
The answer to your question, when it is safe: for them and the pupils and the pupils' families, all of whom would be impacted and harmed (or worse) by this folly to have the children return June 1st.

One of my neighbours is a teaching assistant and her school only has 2 kids attending....
Its a good job NHS staff are not taking the same stance as the members of heavily unionised teaching bodies. There never will be zero risk,what risk there is is low if kids and teaching staff have no underlying conditions, other Countries have been back a month or more .Parents can't get back to work until kids go back. Its time to get back to the classroom teachers.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Gavin Williamson thinks you're all being too easily scared. Gavin can't find or provide any scientific evidence to support this claim but never mind, he's the man "leading" our education policy so he must be dead clever. (rather than just dead, which is what will happen as a direct result of DfE policy).

Given this new research which identifies a threat to children under 10, at least until we are clear what is happening, it would make more sense surely to start back with secondary age children. One constant theme of this crisis has been the old-fashioned centralised top-down approach shown by the Government. It is not the way to operate in a fast-moving digital age.
I am not suggesting we should be over-cautious but that more power should be given to local decision-makers (in this case Headteachers) who know a hell of a lot more about their schools and children than remote Civil Servants.

 

[Chippy_boy]

the trouble is the police are in a bad situation with the law, mass gatherings they should be legaly able to disperse them, social distancing is not law and they can do nothing if people decide not to distance,i agree 100% with your post

You only have to look at the correlation between those countries with more strict lockdowns and their rate of decline of infections and deaths, vs us with our more softly, softly approach. It's taken us longer to peak, the peak has been higher and the decay back down is slower. More people dead. It's really as simple as that.

 

[johnnytapia]

One of my neighbours is a teaching assistant and her school only has 2 kids attending....
Its a good job NHS staff are not taking the same stance as the members of heavily unionised teaching bodies. There never will be zero risk,what risk there is is low if kids and teaching staff have no underlying conditions, other Countries have been back a month or more .Parents can't get back to work until kids go back. Its time to get back to the classroom teachers.

You need to read more. I'd recommend something scientific, preferably peer-reviewed. Then I'd be doing some research on where to put a comma. And an apostrophe. It would help make your last sentence mean something.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

25% UK wide would be roughly 17m.
233k tested positive means about 98.6% were asymptomatic. Really?
Nah.

I really hope that this research is true. If so it would be the most positive story we have seen for a long while.

 

[HelloCity]

Just as a matter of interest when do you all think Teachers should return to work?
- Never?
- When there's a vaccine?
- When the infection rate is much lower and track and trace is in force with full safety measures in place?
- A phased return in three weeks when track and trace is in force and some safety measures are in force?
- In a couple of weeks?
- Next week?
- Now?

(A third of primary school teachers have never stopped working because they look after the children of key workers.)

So, YOU’RE the kind of person who buys into these headlines.

Tbf, I’m hoping I’ve misjudged.

Could you just confirm that you find that headline and article absolutely vile?

 

[nellyonthewing]

You need to read more. I'd recommend something scientific, preferably peer-reviewed. Then I'd be doing some research on where to put a comma. And an apostrophe. It would help make your last sentence mean something.

When a grammar nazi pipes up you know you've won the argument.. The fatality risk to children was recently reported as 0.0007% . Its over 75's when that risk rises to around 1 in 15 of those infected. 70,000 are seriously injured each year on our roads but we don't stop driving.

 

[HelloCity]

One of my neighbours is a teaching assistant and her school only has 2 kids attending....
Its a good job NHS staff are not taking the same stance as the members of heavily unionised teaching bodies. There never will be zero risk,what risk there is is low if kids and teaching staff have no underlying conditions, other Countries have been back a month or more .Parents can't get back to work until kids go back. Its time to get back to the classroom teachers.

This is what happens when you’re completely and utterly brainwashed.

 

[BlueAnorak]

So, YOU’RE the kind of person who buys into these headlines.

Tbf, I’m hoping I’ve misjudged.

Could you just confirm that you find that headline and article absolutely vile?

You fucking well are misjudging me.
I think the headline is fucking idiotic.
That said schools have to open at some point. Hence why I asked the question.

 

[HelloCity]

You fucking well are misjudging me.
I think the headline is fucking idiotic.
That said schools have to open at some point. Hence why I asked the question.

I’m glad that’s the case.

Personally I believe schools should open in time for the next school year if safe to do so.

Wonder when parliament will be open?

 

[ayrshire_blue]

When a grammar nazi pipes up you know you've won the argument.. The fatality risk to children was recently reported as 0.0007% . Its over 75's when that risk rises to around 1 in 15 of those infected. 70,000 are seriously injured each year on our roads but we don't stop driving.

You're spectacularly missing the point though. Referencing other countries being back a month or more then I ask you which countries? And what's their rate of infection like compared to ours? When did they lock down compared to us? If we've been slow at getting our arses in gear then we're inevitably going to be slow at being able to 'join in' with other countries.

Your point about cars is neither here nor there as it has absolutely fuck all comparisons with a highly infectious disease.

 

[HelloCity]

Like, do these people all of a sudden getting on the backs of teachers and the unions not realise that they’ve been completely played?

Surely it’s not hard to put 2 and 2 together and say to yourself ‘hold on, I’ve started getting on their case at the exact same time these papers/journos/politicians etc began to pump out these headlines and stories. Maybe I’ve been influenced?’.

I mean, you haven’t just plucked these thoughts and ideas out of thin air.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

When a grammar nazi pipes up you know you've won the argument.. The fatality risk to children was recently reported as 0.0007% . Its over 75's when that risk rises to around 1 in 15 of those infected. 70,000 are seriously injured each year on our roads but we don't stop driving.

You utter plank!
It isn’t the risk to children that is the problem, it’s the fact that they can get infected as easily as adults, as the ONS study has found, don’t get ill, but are vectors for passing it round and killing obese parents, diabetic neighbours and grandparents.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Just as a matter of interest when do you all think Teachers should return to work?
- Never?
- When there's a vaccine?
- When the infection rate is much lower and track and trace is in force with full safety measures in place?
- A phased return in three weeks when track and trace is in force and some safety measures are in force?
- In a couple of weeks?
- Next week?
- Now?

(A third of primary school teachers have never stopped working because they look after the children of key workers.)

I think track and trace is the key measure. When we are doing this properly (as they are in many countries) it means we should be able to snuff out any local outbreak (perhaps in a school) very quickly. We are just not on top of this yet. Hopefully we'll get some news on timescales for this next week. It may well be that the June target for gradually building up the return to schools is not a million miles away.
I think parents will need as much re-assurance as teachers. I have two young relatives who have been teaching in inner-city primary schools throughout the crisis. Most teachers have been doing a magnificent job.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Just as a matter of interest when do you all think Teachers should return to work?
- Never?
- When there's a vaccine?
- When the infection rate is much lower and track and trace is in force with full safety measures in place?
- A phased return in three weeks when track and trace is in force and some safety measures are in force?
- In a couple of weeks?
- Next week?
- Now?

(A third of primary school teachers have never stopped working because they look after the children of key workers.)

When the House of Commons fully restarts.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

When the House of Commons fully restarts.

The longer those idiots stay away (and the fools in the House of Lords) the better. The reduced politicking has been one of the few positives in this crisis.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

You think so?
I don’t like Govt by presidential clique.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Our media is legit criminal. I honestly feel like the gloves have come off with them and they’re just completely hammering it as hard as they can now.

They must have realised over the last few years that no matter how extreme they go, their target audience still continue to lap it up.

the media bashing is a bit tedious, seen as they are as divided as the nation is, some are pro Boris, others are anti Boris, some are anti lockdown, others are pro lockdown and some are balanced. it will always be this way, to keep carpet blanking them all the same is pointless.