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Vic said:
Peter Bone saying it's not up to Johnson to sack Cummings, he should have resigned and not put Johnson in that position.

So he thinks that if Johnson goes to Cummings and says "Don't put me in this position, I want you to resign", Cummings just says no...
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A bit like Ceferin telling Gill to resign I think.

If there is a better example of the tail wagging the dog than the Boris / Cummings relationship I would like to see it.
 
Cityfan said:
No the crux of risk in the lockdown is when an action is multiplied by everyone . His wife was meant to be self isolating , it is difficult to do at home but frequently possible it is impossible to do it in a car. You then take her to a new residence with other people.
Virtually everyone has been shopping at least once and the transmission rate is falling. If everyone climbed into a car with someone infected with covid and drove them to a new area the rate would be rising not falling.
Covid severity if infected is thought to be at least 50% genetic Cummings was said to have had it quite badly in the end after his journey , he could have infected health workers and it's actually quite likely his parents could have got it very badly.
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Fair comment. I didn’t know about the genetic aspect but I would take issue with the “had it quite badly” part. Was he hospitalised ?
 
True_Blue69 said:
One things for sure, he knows more than Karen7 off Bluemoon forum. You showed your true colours yesterday when I tried saying 0.25% of the country has had it.

Speak truthfully, would you rather there be a minor 2nd wave, or none and have to admit you were wrong on everything you've been saying?
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For a start he is a prof in chemistry not infectious diseases,he says lockdown didn't save one life,he predicted 50,000 Deaths by mid march etc etc,i know your stance at the beginning is this is just flu,nothing worse and you stayed the same throughout but the links you use to back that are mostly laughable

As was said yesterday I often stand corrected,i post the figures in good faith as they are putting up the graphs on tv

I am not even going to dignify your second question

If there is a second wave it is because the world's experts say there is going to be and not me posting on a football forum
 
Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
Fair comment. I didn’t know about the genetic aspect but I would take issue with the “had it quite badly” part. Was he hospitalised ?
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His wife in a piece in the Spectator said he was unwell for two weeks at times struggling to breath and on his own pulse oximeter had sats dropping to 85% from memory. Sounds about as bad as you can get without getting into hospital.
 
Cityfan said:
His wife in a piece in the Spectator said he was unwell for two weeks at times struggling to breath and on his own pulse oximeter had sats dropping to 85% from memory. Sounds about as bad as you can get without getting into hospital.
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Or could she maybe of embellished the story.
 
True_Blue69 said:
One things for sure, he knows more than Karen7 off Bluemoon forum. You showed your true colours yesterday when I tried saying 0.25% of the country has had it.

Speak truthfully, would you rather there be a minor 2nd wave, or none and have to admit you were wrong on everything you've been saying?
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Oh do fuck off
 
karen7 said:
For a start he is a prof in chemistry not infectious diseases,he says lockdown didn't save one life,he predicted 50,000 Deaths by mid march etc etc,i know your stance at the beginning is this is just flu,nothing worse and you stayed the same throughout but the links you use to back that are mostly laughable

As was said yesterday I often stand corrected,i post the figures in good faith as they are putting up the graphs on tv

I am not even going to dignify your second question

If there is a second wave it is because the world's experts say there is going to be and not me posting on a football forum
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I think you're right but as he says, numbers are numbers and infectious disease experts always over egg the pudding as under egging it is simply not going to happen. By their very nature they tend to provide a worst case scenario.
 
Cityfan said:
His wife in a piece in the Spectator said he was unwell for two weeks at times struggling to breath and on his own pulse oximeter had sats dropping to 85% from memory. Sounds about as bad as you can get without getting into hospital.
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He'd have been hospitalised if his oxygen went under 90%.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Apparantly the people in the minng villages in South Wales think they had the virus in November and December so are imune and keep breaking social distancing rules.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...death-rate-double-englands-average-mp-blames/
Only mass testing of certain areas will resolve issues like this.
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If the population of mining villages in South Wales think they had it last year, mass testing won’t help unless they’re going to test for brain activity.
 
I'm surprised to see people splitting hairs over what counts as protecting their son. I think it's fair and reasonable to give them the benefit of the doubt on that part given a 4 year old is involved.

What's not fair is doing a day trip to a tourist spot when everyone else is sticking to the rules. The way Shapps and Johnson answered the questions about that yesterday make it clear he did do the day trip to Barnard's Castle. Having a nice day out when everyone else is staying within walking distance of their home is a piss take. One rule for me and one for everyone else.

I don't expect the questions about that to stop until they give a straight answer.
 
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