UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
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With football facing a big loss in income, no fans in stadium's any time soon, reduced TV income, perhaps reduced sponsorship's. I wonder what uefa and the PL would make of any owners willing to dig into their own pockets to offset these losses. Surely such a gesture should be encouraged and applauded during these troubled times.
 
With football facing a big loss in income, no fans in stadium's any time soon, reduced TV income, perhaps reduced sponsorship's. I wonder what uefa and the PL would make of any owners willing to dig into their own pockets to offset these losses. Surely such a gesture should be encouraged and applauded during these troubled times.
Exactly. I cant quite imagine them saying to the like of United "nah you cant invest,, you'll just have to go bust"
 
Me too. He was one of the most vicious at calling for us to be punished and banned. I don't get the love in for this arsehole at all. Sure his teams did on the whole play good football but he was a terrible ungracious loser, he never admitted he saw his side do anything wrong while whining to all and sundry about anything another side did they he considered not fair. An utter wanker.
Wenger and Taggart then !
 
Alan Boksic was the highest paid player in the Premier League when they signed him. Absolute lunacy.

We kept on hearing at the time that Gibson was the best owner in the Premier League. This was utter bollocks based purely on the fact that he was a local load. And to top it off they had the nerve to criticise foreign owners coming into the PL after they had spunked all their dough and staring into the abyss.

It's a complete car crash of a club. How anybody can hold Gibson up as a model owner is ridiculous.

according to Dean Windass, Boksik was on £100k per week 20 years ago. I know many Boro fans & they believe we ruined football as that’s what they read.
 
Let's hope that Wenger, now in a position to exert some influence on the future of the game, behaves like the typical smoker who gives up smoking and becomes a radical non-smoker. As an enemy he was irritating, but could he yet make a powerful ally?
 
That seems like a huge leap of imagination tbf.

You tell me 1 City fan who doesnt want the lot of them held accountable for everything they have said & done

What would you say is fair, would you take being found not guilty & then just moving on?

For me its simple,
1. guilty & we deserve all the shit thrown at us
2. not guilty then fuck the lot of them & take them down not one thought of being calm & giving a 2nd chance fuck em all
 
Guess who this is?
I am in favour of opening things up to more investment, which FFP does not allow for,’ he told L’Equipe. ‘The clubs that dominate Europe today are those that were built and made investments during an era when FFP did not exist. FFP prevents emerging clubs who want to invest from doing so. That is not normal.

‘These rules have fixed a hierarchy, the big historical clubs are bigger and bigger and, obviously, they are all fighting for FFP to be scrupulously applied to others so that competitors can’t come through.
‘Controlling club management rigorously, yes, verifying where funds are coming from, yes, but we need to encourage people to invest in football. FFP must become more flexible and facilitate investment. We must control clubs in their way of doing things but not tell them how to do it. If the club believes that it is not taking any risks with its balance by buying a player for £150million, what is the problem?’
Is he unable to control a zip?
 
I've said before that The Guardian seems to be acting under instructions. But I don't think it's the case with FCUM. They do seem very keen to take the Human Rights Watch/MGeehan line on the UAE however and that's a line that's looking increasingly compromised as they seem to take a very different attitude to Qatari human rights infractions, which are every bit as bad as the UAE's.
It was The Guardian that first had a shit fit in Qatar’s human rights issue.

2013: How many more must die for Qatar's World Cup?

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...man-rights-sport-cohen?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

2016: Human Rights Watch criticises Qatar on changes to its labour law
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....cises-qatar-changes-labour-law-2022-world-cup
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....cises-qatar-changes-labour-law-2022-world-cup

2016: Migrant workers suffer ‘appalling treatment’ in Qatar World Cup stadiums, says Amnesty

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....ment-in-qatar-world-cup-stadiums-says-amnesty

2018: Qatar migrant workers are still being exploited, says Amnesty report

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....p-workers-still-exploited-says-amnesty-report

2019: Sudden deaths of hundreds of migrant workers in Qatar not investigated

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....-of-migrant-workers-in-qatar-not-investigated

2019: Qatar stadium deaths: the dark side of the glittering venue hosting Liverpool


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....side-of-liverpools-glittering-world-cup-venue

2020: Covid-19 lockdown turns Qatar’s largest migrant camp into ‘virtual prison’

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....tars-largest-migrant-camp-into-virtual-prison

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They never stop having a moan although I suppose I should be thankful that it’s in part of their reporting in the West that Qatar ditches the Kafala employment system where one’s employer had to give permission to leave the country etc.

When you say you think The Guardian is acting under instruction, who’s instruction do you believe they’re acting under?
 
You tell me 1 City fan who doesnt want the lot of them held accountable for everything they have said & done

What would you say is fair, would you take being found not guilty & then just moving on?

For me its simple,
1. guilty & we deserve all the shit thrown at us
2. not guilty then fuck the lot of them & take them down not one thought of being calm & giving a 2nd chance fuck em all
Not every trip in the box is a penalty or a yellow card for simulation.
 
May as well have the current FFP as the above blocks inward investment to improve. Silly idea.

Not really, the wages are unsustainable and need capping against income, and clubs shouldn't be driven to financial peril in the pursuit of tv money. I've already said owners would be mandated to cover losses over a certain level so they can invest all they want, the main limiting factor being they have to keep their biggest expense in check.
 
That story sums Holt up. Talk about a journalist who is less than the sum of his parts. I still can’t believe how he’s ascended to some kind of ‘top tier’ status in the profession. Not fit to be mentioned alongside the likes of David Walsh or Martin Samuel, that’s for sure.
Never trust a County fan ;-)

It’s interesting to hear Holt described as ‘top tier’ - he’s definitely not the fizziest drink in the fridge and he jumps from one bandwagon to another with relative ease. Deffo not a man you’d want on your side in a crisis. In his defence, despite being a bit thick - which isn’t a crime - even for a journalist at least Holt isn’t a sociopath which seems to be increasingly the case for many of his colleagues in that (so called) profession.
 
You tell me 1 City fan who doesnt want the lot of them held accountable for everything they have said & done

What would you say is fair, would you take being found not guilty & then just moving on?

For me its simple,
1. guilty & we deserve all the shit thrown at us
2. not guilty then fuck the lot of them & take them down not one thought of being calm & giving a 2nd chance fuck em all
I just meant you saying “it sounds like we won’t be banned” was a bit of a stretch at this stage. No-one knows yet how this will play out.
 
Not really, the wages are unsustainable and need capping against income, and clubs shouldn't be driven to financial peril in the pursuit of tv money. I've already said owners would be mandated to cover losses over a certain level so they can invest all they want, the main limiting factor being they have to keep their biggest expense in check.
Once you start regulating P&L items, you get into all sorts of trouble with definitions, knock on effects, interference with the business, one size fits all problems, etc etc. You finish up making more and more arcane rules. See the prem's own wage rule which caused Arsenal real problems because they had a relatively low commercial income to which wage increases were effectively tied.
 
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