George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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MeatnSpudsMCFC said:
Does a vetting process even exist in the US when it comes to law enforcement? Over here it goes as far as you having to declare tattoos but in the US I couldn't find anything. Incidents like George Floyd seem to occur frequently.
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It is so difficult to put in an effective vetting system to weed out the racists, especially when you have an institutionally racist justice system from top to bottom.
 
twosips said:
I didn't realise quite how bad it'd gotten over there. Only just catching up with it all this morning.

This clip is what made me start looking into it all, and its bloody scary isn't it.
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Surprised that so many haven't been paying attention, this is decades in the making
 
Scottyboi said:
Rioting last night don't blame them tbh, just not ideal with a pandemic going on tonight could be even bigger with more cities joining in.
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People will be irate at this atrocity, however, the rioters include out of town activists and they seemed to be mainly white (from what I could see on the news). Locals might be less willing to burn smash up their own town.
 
Americans are so fucking stupid when it comes to this.... how can they say anything is right with their country when their cops are so so so so bad. Is it some sort of fear of disagreeing with the masses? Does the individual think "how can I be right" this is just "the way it is"......

Shocking how the land of the free cant even seem to get simple thing like cops not murdering people over and over again
 
Trumps America is going downhill. I know they've had race riots worse than this before but with the way Trump is reacting this is only going to be the beginning. A long summer of race riots, covid lockdown riots, more and more deaths, less and less money. Then the elections. It's going to be uglier than ever before it looks like
 
Aguero_Element said:
Americans are so fucking stupid when it comes to this.... how can they say anything is right with their country when their cops are so so so so bad. Is it some sort of fear of disagreeing with the masses? Does the individual think "how can I be right" this is just "the way it is"......

Shocking how the land of the free cant even seem to get simple thing like cops not murdering people over and over again
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Everyone in the US should be asking questions why the police are killing so many people whatever their colour, unless that is addressed the staus quo will remain the same.
 
Aguero_Element said:
Americans are so fucking stupid when it comes to this.... how can they say anything is right with their country when their cops are so so so so bad. Is it some sort of fear of disagreeing with the masses? Does the individual think "how can I be right" this is just "the way it is"......
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Aguero_Element said:
Shocking how the land of the free cant even seem to get simple thing like cops not murdering people over and over again
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There are 300 odd million in the country including non citizens such as myself. Believe me, there is outrage around this issue from white people - they all post messages on facebook about it.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
It is so difficult to put in an effective vetting system to weed out the racists, especially when you have an institutionally racist justice system from top to bottom.
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Some people may think it's absurd to link it to slavery, but immediately after the civil war, when slavery was abolished with the ratification of the 13th amendment, the south still needed help rebuilding the economy after engaging in and losing a 4 year long civil war and thus losing the right enslave millions of people whose free labour the entire south was built and relied upon - they found a loophole in the 13th amendment which stated that neither slavery or involuntary servitude shall exist except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted - this was a reasonable condition to freedom that exist in every country to this day, but in America in the period immediately following the end of slavery, black people, former slaves, were routinely being charged with minor infractions such as loitering, wolf-whistling at white women, gathering in groups etc and then sent back to work for the former slave owners who just happened to also be sitting on prison association boards and law enforcement association boards - they were now owned by the state rather than the former slave masters.

This was the start of something that has had lasting effects still felt today. Black people were routinely painted as criminals; rapists, murderers etc, almost animal-like in every publication going. The idea that being black was being unintelligent, uncivilised and inherently violent was born, the film the birth of a nation, really hammered home that message, resulting in racist lynch mobs and vigilante justice spreading like wildfire. Over the ensuing decades black people have been mass incarcerated based on the very same stereotypical perceptions established by the former slave owners post-slavery. It's been built into the psyche by the decades and decades of propaganda against the humanity of black men. To this day, black men are viewed as inherently more dangerous than white men, hence why we see police officers calmly talk to an angry white man armed to the teeth with army style machine weapons while they feel the need to pull a gun out and shoot at the tiniest bit of hand movement by a fully compliant, unarmed black person they're talking to.

Forgive me for the lengthy post - it was in no way intended to be this long or come across as lecturing people on history. I just wanted to shed some light on how America has ended up with the society they've got today.
 
Mad Eyed Screamer said:
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There are 300 odd million in the country including non citizens such as myself. Believe me, there is outrage around this issue from white people - they all post messages on facebook about it.
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To be honest I cant say much because I think the media plays a big role in people's general opinions and mobility to cause change - I mean if you look at britain our media and politics situation Is just simply beyond comprehension and there is no logic to our way of life either....
 
It’s almost like trump and the police are deliberately trying to make things worse and throw fuel on the flames just so he’s got an excuse to retaliate and hit them hard. This is not going to end well.
 
The relationship between government and people is non existent. That country is on the verge. Trump is probably using this to deflect from the virus, He is much better at manipulating this type of incident, than the pandemic.
I feel sorry for the majority, but this is the tip of the iceberg, Trump will encourage a violent right wing.
God bless America.
 
I think its feckin brilliant...RISE UP ffs....enough of the hand wringing, meme posting and tweets......smash the feckers.....proper revolution is needed all over the world!!!!

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1.618034 said:
Messages on Facebook eh? Wow. That'll show 'em.
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I saw this vid comment about how things get to be changed.

Black people can't talk to White people about it as a whole it doesn't change the conversation. This is because, mostly, it doesn't affect White people.

It needs White people to talk to White people to bring a Humanity to the whole system.
 
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