So... A guy that was, basically, seen as a 'community leader' was a gang affiliate...?
Try and read up before committing stupidity to the annuals of BM...
I saw a reference on social media to other killings. He sounds like an evil fooker.
Regarding my replies to other posters, the motive might well be what seems the most likely one but this needs to be thoroughly investigated. The copper looks to be a murderer regardless.
I'd disregard his past involvement in other deaths and a possible former friendship with George Floyd - you only have to watch that harrowing video to conclude that in this instance the cop did noting to protect Mr Floyd and failed to ensure the safety of a man being detained - detained mind, not charged yet -and his colleagues are equally as culpable particularly the Asian one by his head - the killing was so easily preventable but to prevent it you had to want to do it.
Turns out George Floyd brutally attacked the cops knee with the back of his head - black lives it seems don't matter
https://twitter.com/i/events/1266246834512474121
Thanks for your words of wisdom but there is an ongoing investigation. All lives matter to me and it was an horrific killing. What is your inside knowledge on the case?
They should all be charged with Murder. You know damn well what you are doing putting your knee onto the throat of a man laying face down on the ground.Ask yourself if you were a citizen and you killed someone, whether you would be held whilst an 'investigation' happened?
These men, right now, are civilians and they are not under arrest.
Have I said he was gang affiliate? No. Just that the investigation has to be concluded to confirm the motives.
Your not even very good at petty name calling.
That's what you got from that?
I've actually resisted calling you any names.
I'm just trying to correct your mind.
And it's "you're"...
To be fair to Tim of the Oak, what else can you get from the information that they may have known each other for 17 years?
That's not to say there's not an issue with racist, police brutality in America but the main motive may be something else in this case.
Some people may think it's absurd to link it to slavery, but immediately after the civil war, when slavery was abolished with the ratification of the 13th amendment, the south still needed help rebuilding the economy after engaging in and losing a 4 year long civil war and thus losing the right enslave millions of people whose free labour the entire south was built and relied upon - they found a loophole in the 13th amendment which stated that neither slavery or involuntary servitude shall exist except as a punishment for a crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted - this was a reasonable condition to freedom that exist in every country to this day, but in America in the period immediately following the end of slavery, black people, former slaves, were routinely being charged with minor infractions such as loitering, wolf-whistling at white women, gathering in groups etc and then sent back to work for the former slave owners who just happened to also be sitting on prison association boards and law enforcement association boards - they were now owned by the state rather than the former slave masters.
This was the start of something that has had lasting effects still felt today. Black people were routinely painted as criminals; rapists, murderers etc, almost animal-like in every publication going. The idea that being black was being unintelligent, uncivilised and inherently violent was born, the film the birth of a nation, really hammered home that message, resulting in racist lynch mobs and vigilante justice spreading like wildfire. Over the ensuing decades black people have been mass incarcerated based on the very same stereotypical perceptions established by the former slave owners post-slavery. It's been built into the psyche by the decades and decades of propaganda against the humanity of black men. To this day, black men are viewed as inherently more dangerous than white men, hence why we see police officers calmly talk to an angry white man armed to the teeth with army style machine weapons while they feel the need to pull a gun out and shoot at the tiniest bit of hand movement by a fully compliant, unarmed black person they're talking to.
Forgive me for the lengthy post - it was in no way intended to be this long or come across as lecturing people on history. I just wanted to shed some light on how America has ended up with the society they've got today.
Keep telling yourself that. I will ignore your pettiness.
I have read through the articles on Chauvin and he has had a very violent career in the police department. I had picked up the gist of that from social media already.
Many thanks for this. Really good info. Add to this the segregation that went on until relatively recently as well and you have the mix we have today.
Oh, I see. You're upset that I didn't actually insult you by calling you names? Nothing to hang your hat on, I see.
Anyway, I'm trying work out what your point is if these men aren't in custody, like every other citizen would be.
I thought nobody was 'above the law'?
I would have the cops in custody so you might want to adjust your radar if you are trying to stereotype me. My point was and is that the investigation needs to establish the motives for this crime rather than assuming that this is known with certainty.
Would you mind letting BM know about your expertise in this field. I am far from an expert but at least I have been a volunteer mentor trying to help people get back on their feet after being in trouble with the law. Yes, this isn't greatly relevant to the case in hand but at least I give my time to help others, rather than just laying down the law on BM. If you were the original Henry Fonda character in 12 Angry Men, please let us know?
Your whole point is negated by wanting the cops 'in custody' then 'understanding the need for investigation'.
What??
You do one, first, then the other.
They should not be separate entities where a crime is committed.
So, I know Jimmy Dore can be hit and miss, but he is BANG ON right here...
I can't fault anything he says and it's also something I've been saying for years.
Many thanks for this. Really good info. Add to this the segregation that went on until relatively recently as well and you have the mix we have today.