My take on what constitutes a revolution is when the majority are unhappy with the oppressive rule of the minIt's rare to see a peaceful revolution, perhaps Aquino in the Philippines is the one that comes to mind straight away.
And yes, a civil war amounts to a revolution as well. I do not know what the majority block of America thinks anymore - what I do recognize is that increasingly it is a dumbed down populace who are ignorant and il-equipped to even draw logical conclusions. There are racists/bigots across America, do they represent the majority? I would only be guessing and at the very least, it's substantial enough to thwart progress.
Perhaps America could use a civil war and divide up the country to leave the racists/bigots on one side and progressives in the other but that won't come about without a revolution and even less likely to happen peacefully. You create & foster a culture of violence then violence is what you will get
Agreed to a point, although that’s with reference to historical revolution precedent. America as is now is a whole new ball game, without precedent. There isn’t an underlying middle class rumbling. The middle classes in America are divided along party lines, and seem to be getting more and more entrenched.For any revolution to properly take hold and succeed it needs the broad support of the bourgeoisie. Don’t see that happening anytime soon, anywhere in the western world, but if wealth inequality continues along the same path, then in time, it might.
If you can't even be bothered to look up the platform of the person running against Trump, it really does show how insincere you are, but as others might want to read it I'll post it anyway -
End of Mandatory minimums
End, once and for all, the federal crack and powder cocaine disparity
Decriminalize the use of cannabis and automatically expunge all prior cannabis use convictions
End all incarceration for drug use alone and instead divert individuals to drug courts and treatment.
Eliminate the death penalty
Use the president’s clemency power to secure the release of individuals facing unduly long sentences for certain non-violent and drug crimes.
End cash bail + Stop jailing people for being too poor to pay fines and fees
End the federal government’s use of private prisons, building off an Obama-Biden Administration’s policy rescinded by the Trump Administration. And, he will make clear that the federal government should not use private facilities for any detention, including detention of undocumented immigrants.
Now you might well say he won't actually do that, politicians never fulfil all their manifesto promises, but my answer would be he's sure as hell more likely to do it than the president who's advocating the opposite of every one of those policies and has done nothing but move social and justice reform backwards over the last 3 1/2 years.
Is...
Is that real...?
Cos if it IS, I'm so stoked!! LOL!!
You still don't see it! His tenure supported a good 80% of this stuff he's now "against"!
He's considering Sen. Klobuchar, WHO WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOWING DEREK CHAUVIN TO KEEP HIS JOB and go on to murder Mr Floyd. He's also considering Sen. Harris, who is almost as bad!
He has no real Progressive options he wants to consider.
That's not 'hope', that's pandering to the people in order to keep the status quo.
I thought this thread was about the murder of George Floyd, the riots that have followed and are still ongoing and the administrations response. It seems to have turned into another thread where you prattle on about Biden like he's relevant to this. Why don't you take your Biden hatred back to the Biden thread and leave this one to those that want to discuss the murder, the riots and Trump's incitement.You still don't see it! His tenure supported a good 80% of this stuff he's now "against"!
He's considering Sen. Klobuchar, WHO WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALLOWING DEREK CHAUVIN TO KEEP HIS JOB and go on to murder Mr Floyd. He's also considering Sen. Harris, who is almost as bad!
He has no real Progressive options he wants to consider.
That's not 'hope', that's pandering to the people in order to keep the status quo.
This one is even better!Oh.. oh girlBob, that was beautiful!! LOL!!
It's hilarious that you will cite how almost all the people who supported the 94' bill are now against it as proof it was terrible, but as soon as that person is Biden, he must be lying and he can't possibly have changed his opinion.
I thought this thread was about the murder of George Floyd, the riots that have followed and are still ongoing and the administrations response. It seems to have turned into another thread where you prattle on about Biden like he's relevant to this. Why don't you take your Biden hatred back to the Biden thread and leave this one to those that want to discuss the murder, the riots and Trump's incitement.
This one is even better!
It's a no brainer how things get better.It has moved on to to how the US gets better and what direction it should take. You think it's solely about Biden when it's about the DNC neolib position that will not change things, as a rule, going forward.
But, yeah, you're completely correct in your detective work, of course...
Now there's an option suited perfectly to 2020.It's not completely impossible to rule out Kanye West either
It's a no brainer how things get better.
Get rid of the source of the incitement. Get rid of the man who supported armed attacks on state legislatures yet is encouraging the police to shoot dead protestors against racially motivated murder. Get rid of the man who said there were some fine people amongst the fascists and racists in Charlottesville yet has labelled those that oppose them as terrorists.
It's quite fucking simple. Get rid of Trump. Anything else will be better. What Biden agreed with in 1994 is totally irrelevant and a distraction.
It's a no brainer how things get better.
Get rid of the source of the incitement. Get rid of the man who supported armed attacks on state legislatures yet is encouraging the police to shoot dead protestors against racially motivated murder. Get rid of the man who said there were some fine people amongst the fascists and racists in Charlottesville yet has labelled those that oppose them as terrorists.
It's quite fucking simple. Get rid of Trump. Anything else will be better. What Biden agreed with in 1994 is totally irrelevant and a distraction.
'Joe Biden is in the streets trying to unify the nation while Trump hides out in an underground tweeting hate and division'
but voting Biden, the only realistic chance to oust Trump is apparently wrong
It's just fucking weird that anyone who sees themselves as progressive can even consider that Trump is preferable to anyone, and can post crap like this:'Joe Biden is in the streets trying to unify the nation while Trump hides out in an underground tweeting hate and division'
but voting Biden, the only realistic chance to oust Trump is apparently wrong
And that is in response to a post saying that Trump doesn't actually have a position!!I agree on the president's position.
It's just fucking weird that anyone who sees themselves as progressive can even consider that Trump is preferable to anyone, and can post crap like this:
And that is in response to a post saying that Trump doesn't actually have a position!!
This one is even better!
You clown.
That was me agreeing with what you said!
Continue to believe your nonsense.
ffs Are you still droning on. If you can`t find the strength to stop at least give us some peace and go on the Biden thread
I think to some extent it's just laziness. The story already exists, and it's already in English. Far easier than having to set up an office in Singapore and employ journalists who speak about 10 different South-East Asian languages to find stories in countries where the free press isn't really a thing.Spot on, PC
I've never understood the morbid fixation this country's media have with all things American.
Hurricane season starts in America, and its the first item on OUR news. Yet in Asia, when it's monsoon/landslide etc season, and the death tolls are tenfold in comparison, these stories are footnotes (or even unreported) by our media.
There's DAILY civil unrest in countless African countries, yet these are on page 15 in the bottom corners of broadsheet newspapers.
Car bombs go off daily in various Middle Eastern countries. These are left to the ends of bulletins. Should something like this happen in America, Clive Myrie, Dermot Murnaghan and spurious ITN journalist will be on the first plane out of Heathrow.
American lives matter more.
A typical example of our media's obsession with USA, was the circus (that's what it was) surrounding OJ Simpson in the mid 90's. I'd wager that well over 95% of our population wouldn't have had a clue about who or what he was. And that 5% who did know of him, was mainly due to him being in the Naked Gun films. Yet, umpteen UK camera crews/reporters/journalists were camped outside the courtroom for weeks. Would the Yanks have done the same for Kevin Keegan/Ian Botham, etc???? I think we know the answer.