George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

[quiet_riot]

is it not stupid to protest during a pandemic ?,they put themselves at risk as well as people they live and work with,they have given themselves more chance of catching and spreading and surely that is wrong, people agree with the BLM well any normanl people do,but to put the whole country at risk was fucking stupid,your attitude is black lives matter but fuck the consequences .

Genuinely, what would you suggest? No protests? Wait until don't-know-when-we-can-be-near-people to protest?

 

[Sir peace frog]

My attitude is:

It's unfortunate with the timing of events, but I understand that people want to make themselves heard AT THE TIME.

Once the moment has gone, it's gone. Therefore you'll be waiting for the next murder in order to say 'enough!'.

Like I've said before, I'd have gone myself were it not for my wife's vulnerable condition.

well done for thinking of others, alot of those protesters didn't give a fuck ,they were there to mingle and party,they were fucking dancing and singing,that doesn't show anger to me,that shows fuck it ,chance to get out and party.
hope you and the mrs stay safe

 

[Sir peace frog]

Genuinely, what would you suggest? No protests? Wait until don't-know-when-we-can-be-near-people to protest?

I suggest these cunts show some fucking respect for the people of this fucking country in trying to contain this fucking virus, or are you alright in the virus going on and on with the chance to kill more people, fucking hell its not that fucking hard is it.

ooops sorry for all the swearing,:)

 

[BlueHammer85]

Fair play to him. I imagine the organisers are pretty pissed off with those who attacked the police. It tarnishes the movement as a whole and detracts from the message they are trying to get across. Glad that there was no trouble at the Manchester protest, as far as I’m aware at least.

considering the scenes in America and how many thousands attended the march yesterday it was far more peaceful than I thought it would be - unfortunately it takes just a small amount of dickheads to ruin it for everyone and now the actual racists are lapping up the trouble we saw yesterday as if they’ve never seen anything like it before - forgetting they witness it on a regular basis when they go Millwall, West Ham etc

 

[quiet_riot]

I suggest these cunts show some fucking respect for the people of this fucking country in trying to contain this fucking virus, or are you alright in the virus going on and on with the chance to kill more people, fucking hell its not that fucking hard is it.

So COVID-19 > Racism.

Thanks for clarifying.

 

[urban genie]

All fair comment.

Only thing I will question is that these protests should not be taking place on account of what happened in the States. What happens there is their problem and innocent lives here should not have been put on the line here.

Clearly there are still issues in this country despite clear progress over the years. The timing of this will have lost support rather than gained it. One month from now it might be safer, maybe 2 months, and a well organised awareness day at that point I am sure would have brought many more across the whole spectrum out on the streets in my view.

Yes there are still racists in Britain and always will be...of all colours and religions, but there are a very vast majority who are not, most really do not give a fuck what colour or religion or sexual preference another person is. Like the racists who voted for Brexit, like the idiots who kicked off yesterday, they are a minority, they are not the seething masses that the left has tried to portray.

I have been on many protests and marches over the years, but because of the pandemic I steered clear of this one, but I do believe that if this was left till it was safe then the moment would be over and so understand why many have gone out

And my post wasn't meant to knock us as a nation which I think functions as a multicutural nation more than the likes of france and Italy.

The fact that these protests are global and in many countries they are using their own countries incidents as a joint focal point as well as George.

I would prefer if it was distanced and spread, why the residents of bolton, bury or stockport cannot protest in a large square or park in thier town and so keep the number down in town to space better.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

All fair comment.

Only thing I will question is that these protests should not be taking place on account of what happened in the States. What happens there is their problem and innocent lives here should not have been put on the line here.

Clearly there are still issues in this country despite clear progress over the years. The timing of this will have lost support rather than gained it. One month from now it might be safer, maybe 2 months, and a well organised awareness day at that point I am sure would have brought many more across the whole spectrum out on the streets in my view.

Yes there are still racists in Britain and always will be...of all colours and religions, but there are a very vast majority who are not, most really do not give a fuck what colour or religion or sexual preference another person is. Like the racists who voted for Brexit, like the idiots who kicked off yesterday, they are a minority, they are not the seething masses that the left has tried to portray.

The problem is that that's not how protests usually work. They're very time dependent and rely on having a groundswell of public opinion at a particular time. The civil rights movement wouldn't have happened if they tried to arrange a protest 3 months after Rosa Parks got arrested. Obviously the UK is piggybacking on the American one, but it is addressing domestic issues too. But yeah, it's unfortunate that such a thing is happening in the middle of a pandemic, but it's also a far more understandable social gathering than the thousands of people going to the beach because it was a sunny day.

 

[meltonblue]

Those in the protest that were intent on causing trouble and damage are not the ones to focus on. Yes, their actions deserve criticism, as they have received by the organisers themselves too (who I imagine are more annoyed with them than anyone), but allowing it to be the main topic of conversation is just as unhelpful though.

 

[purplenose]

Great.

Now ask yourself; why have these marches happened in countries worldwide regardless of COVID...?

That should be the deeper question.

Indeed it is.

You and I know many of those answers. With that in mind would a little more credit being given to the good progress in the country, a little more recognition to all the good people in this country go amiss whilst issuing a call to arms for everyone who cares to try and do a little bit to support efforts in less enlightened places. Just a thought.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

There’s a protest going on near my home today on Fylde Coast. It is in an open area and advises those to wear face masks and stay 2m apart.


I wasn’t even aware we had any police around here in truth.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Poor and white is poor, just as poor and black is poor and boy were there some poor people knocking about when I was a child and our prospects were zilch. What I will never do is accept that some fist pumping idiot who is trying to force a privilege I never had down my throat to make me feel shame for my skin colour.

Most of this is anti Trump and it's anti Boris in this country, it's like 2016 all over again, there were countless Brexit is racist placards about yesterday. I agree with the movement in the US if it's peaceful but over here it's a piss take.

People are going to be angry if race is weaponised as part of political campaigns. Boris was happy to benefit from the extra votes from a divisive strategy that led to more hate crimes.

 

[stonerblue]

I am not looking, you just want me to have a tantrum and wake her up and then get a bollocking.

Well it is Sunday morning. I'm expecting my bollocking in the next half hour with any luck.

 

[ManCitizens.]

Well, that's basically what the Gov have proposed in their half-baked-make-it-up-as-they-go-along messaging to us.

So, you tell me.

You’re assuming I agree with the governments approach.

Whilst the majority protesting are there for an important cause, if it triggers a second outbreak it’s a big fuck you to the NHS, the emergency services (yes, including the police) and other key workers in my opinion.

People have sacrificed a lot during this lockdown, none more so than the people putting themselves and loved ones at greater risk by working on the front line.

 

[Sir peace frog]

So COVID-19 > Racism.

Thanks for clarifying.

are you for real ?

 

[purplenose]

I have been on many protests and marches over the years, but because of the pandemic I steered clear of this one, but I do believe that if this was left till it was safe then the mement would be over and so understand why many have gone out

And my post wasn't meant to knock us as a nation which I think functions as a multicutural nation more than the likes of france and Italy.

The fact that these protests are global and in many countries they are using their own countries incidents as a joint focal point as well as George.

I would prefer if it was distanced and spread, why the residents of bolton, bury or stockport cannot protest in a large square or park in thier town and so keep the number down in town to space better.

I do take the point regarding in effect the danger of the moment being lost. Normally of course what has happened would be a different matter all together, lots of things are horribly different right now.

I do think what happened in the States is too big to just fade over a few weeks and on that basis believe that even now there can be alot of excellent work can be done in safer times. Here and across many countries.

 

[mexico1970]

People are going to be angry if race is weaponised as part of political campaigns. Boris was happy to benefit from the extra votes from a divisive strategy that led to more hate crimes.

It's because he's a Tory, race is weaponised by idiots like Abbott and Biden but it's OK because they are not tories. He got an 80 seat majority he didn't slip over the line like a thief in the night.

These riots have more to do with anti-Tory and anti-Brexit than is being let on, and it's becoming more evident.

 

[purplenose]

Well it is Sunday morning. I'm expecting my bollocking in the next half hour with any luck.

They do like a good moan on a Sunday, still all quiet here. wont be long now.

 

[urban genie]

Poor and white is poor, just as poor and black is poor and boy were there some poor people knocking about when I was a child and our prospects were zilch. What I will never do is accept that some fist pumping idiot who is trying to force a privilege I never had down my throat to make me feel shame for my skin colour.

Most of this is anti Trump and it's anti Boris in this country, it's like 2016 all over again, there were countless Brexit is racist placards about yesterday. I agree with the movement in the US if it's peaceful but over here it's a piss take.

I think my point was clear the poor no matter what have been treated as inferior, maginalised and demonised,(the term chav comes to mind) but I am being honest that I am in no fear of the police seeing me and profiling me as a potential criminal or stop and searching me.


In my belief white, black, asian should not be divided but united, and supporting BLM, it isn't maginalising white people who are treated badly in society but saying we should be standing together in solidarity and together we can chamge this country for the better.

 

[purplenose]

Which part?

The saying I agree with BLM?
That I believe black comunities suffer more institutional racism and are stoped and seached more.
That racism exists globally in some part in most communities.

That I only suffer any form of prejudice from the police when at football, paticullary as an away fan unlike many BAME communities

That throwing a bike at a police horse is a dickhead move.
Or that the protest would be better spread out so we can social distance more

Or that farage amd johnson are racist?

The final bit I do have to disagree.

 

[Cheesy]

At least the protester's "I can't breathe" banners won't go to waste.

They'll be needing them again in a couple of weeks.