George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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Sorry mate as you know there is still not enough known about Covid. It is quite possible 1000s could die as a result of the weekends events. Hopefully not but it is quite possible.

The cause has shot itself in the foot and also been hijacked by the far left, and militants, its not only very stupid but very sad.

Yes, so one person in the middle of a big crowd will now potentially infect more people, in all directions due to the wind, rather than just the person nearby and in front of them?

Let's see what happens in a few weeks, shall we?
 
"And I, for one, will join in with anyone — I don't care what colour you are — as long as you want to change this miserable condition that exists on this earth.” –Malcolm X

Another Malcolm X quote that should resonate with genuine BLM protests bud.

“There are many whites who are trying to solve the problem. But, you never see them going under the label of liberals.” Malcolm highlighted that the White American who identifies as a liberal is the most ‘dangerous’ and ‘deceitful’ thing in the Western Hemisphere."
 
Do you think it’s entirely plausible to agree with the general premise of the protest and support the aims for true equality but disagree 15,000 people marching together in the middle of a pandemic and turning violent in other areas, is a suitable response in the UK?

I don’t think a mass protest in the middle of a pandemic is a good idea. I don’t think people packing themselves into tube trains, buses, airplanes, beaches, celebrating VE Day, etc is a good idea either. But they are all happened, are happening or about to happen as we open up more and more without the systems in place to test, track and control the virus.

The protests will take the blame for a second wave because it’s convenient, suits people and the media, especially those who have been advocating relaxing lockdown or writing about how lockdown is an affront to our liberty.

Every single death in the event of a second wave will be laid at the door of left wing protestors and black people. It was ever thus.
 
Another Malcolm X quote that should resonate with genuine BLM protests bud.

“There are many whites who are trying to solve the problem. But, you never see them going under the label of liberals.” Malcolm highlighted that the White American who identifies as a liberal is the most ‘dangerous’ and ‘deceitful’ thing in the Western Hemisphere."

Today, he would levy that charge at the Democratic party!
 
Incredible is it not that people think to take this risk on behalf of others. If there is a second wave now there is going to be blood spilt.

Doesn’t advocating violence against people protesting about violence they experience kind of prove their point?
 
At the footy they could carry the goals up to the front line and swing off the crossbars.
Kilts when policing the Highland games mob?
And for the biggest annual crowds in Edinburgh the riot squad could police it (one for @Magicpole here) through the medium of dance, and, or, mime.

Contemporary dance a possibility, as Iong as I was on hand as primary choreographer.. Mime is for arseholes.

I agree with Frankie Boyle on this subject.

"If I could have a superpower, it would be the ability to he invisible. Then I could kick a mine artist to death, as the crowd witnessed what would look like the best mime act ever."
 
I don’t think a mass protest in the middle of a pandemic is a good idea. I don’t think people packing themselves into tube trains, buses, airplanes, beaches, celebrating VE Day, etc is a good idea either. But they are all happened, are happening or about to happen as we open up more and more without the systems in place to test, track and control the virus.

The protests will take the blame for a second wave because it’s convenient, suits people and the media, especially those who have been advocating relaxing lockdown or writing about how lockdown is an affront to our liberty.

Every single death in the event of a second wave will be laid at the door of left wing protestors and black people. It was ever thus.

The protests, whilst a more serious reason, were much worse than the above, maybe not tubes and buses but those people had to go to work. The VE celebrations weren’t 15,000 in a packed city centre square and neither were the beaches.

We don’t know if they will or not, that’s speculation but those that did protest will have to take at least some of the guilt/blame, do you agree?
 
How they will respond is determined by the orders of the day and how they intend to police the protest. If you send in tooled up police equipped to fight you will get a fight. If you intend to police the protest with a minimum of disruption then you approach it without combat gear. Faceless police in combat gear is designed to be threatening and people when threatened react.

If you try and kettle the protest or squeeze it you will get conflict. If you allow it move naturally under police management then you won’t.

What you guys seem to want is the police to crack skulls when someone gets out of order irrespective of whether that is the best thing to do or not. If you think the entire purpose of the police is voided ‘if they are not able to use force or be tooled up’ then congratulations you are part of the problem.

This thread is now the ‘I’m upset about people being murdered by the police but I’m enraged that the police are running away and not beating the shit out of people’.

Didn’t take long.

I'm not sure how you've read that I want the police to crack skulls. From what I have seen it was the police who had their skulls cracked hence why I'm wondering if their equipment was correct given they never dealt with any of the violence.

27 police officers were injured over the weekend (the BBC called it a peaceful protest!) and the officer who fell from the horse was very lucky.

Do you think that 27 injured police officers is acceptable?

The violence HAS to stop but aside from that I have no problem with the peaceful aspect and fully support the cause.
 
Contemporary dance a possibility, as Iong as I was on hand as primary choreographer.. Mime is for arseholes.

I agree with Frankie Boyle on this subject.

"If I could have a superpower, it would be the ability to he invisible. Then I could kick a mine artist to death, as the crowd witnessed what would look like the best mime act ever."
Contemporary might be a bit to antagonistic with all that jerking about and whatnot. As would traditional 'jumping'.
Thinking about it, why not just bang some trance on and have a big rave instead?
 
Let's see what happens in a few weeks, shall we?

Absolutely, and I hope and think there is a chance little or no spike will occur if my own theory of what is going on regarding the virus is anywhere close.

Its a hell of a risk and the fact all these people were prepared to risk so many lives regardless of what happens speaks volumes. The timing of this is indefensible and could be catastrophic for not only the cause they claim to champion but for the country as a whole.
 
‘I am not equal and experience violence yet if I ask for equality I am sowing division’

Is that how it works in your head?
he said: 'Show them where it hurts.

'Abstain from spending your money in their shops and economies, and invest in black-owned businesses.' Who's THEIR aswell? Creating divide no?
 
The protests, whilst a more serious reason, were much worse than the above, maybe not tubes and buses but those people had to go to work. The VE celebrations weren’t 15,000 in a packed city centre square and neither were the beaches.

We don’t know if they will or not, that’s speculation but those that did protest will have to take at least some of the guilt/blame, do you agree?

I doubt if they are worse then tubes, buses or trains and I have said twice protests are not a good idea in a pandemic and will not help in the same way CL matches and Cheltenham didn’t help, albeit the protests do have more people with face coverings. Although that may be more to avoid recognition than public health.
 
Doesn’t advocating violence against people protesting about violence they experience kind of prove their point?

Yes it does. Should the coming days see opposition mobilise and the protests continue and there is even more of a shit storm maybe an even bigger second wave, it will prove the point I have been making for years. That point is the far right and left are both two cheeks of the same shitty arse as bad as each other and a massive shower of cunts.
 
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