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[blueinsa]

There is. It’s called the ‘Brit Awards’.

Open to all, we are all Brits regardless of colour.

You are really struggling here Bob.

 

[BobKowalski]

Laugh away Bob.

Want to have a go at answering?

I did. Twice. You are looking so hard for examples of ‘Black racism’ it’s funny. I’m expecting Diana Abbott’s tweet from a few years ago to be offered in evidence next.

 

[Bigga]

Also telling you ignored my first paragraph.

I have no idea your motivation which is precisely why I brought it up. For me personally, I wouldn’t stick a like or approval on any post which had elements I disagreed with so assumed you had similar standards. My apologies.

If it's a perspective I can understand, then I can understand it. That includes people I've openly disagreed with on this very thread that might counter my own original view.

So, I'm not really sure what the issue is?

 

[blueinsa]

I did. Twice. You are looking so hard for examples of ‘Black racism’ it’s funny. I’m expecting Diana Abbott’s tweet from a few years ago to be offered in evidence next.

I am not looking, i am commenting.

I didn't force Joshua to say it but he did and it is now newsworthy.

If you dont want to respond and be a bit silly then fair enough.

 

[Bigga]

Open to all, we are all Brits regardless of colour.

You are really struggling here Bob.

I think you don't understand what the MOBO is.

It's not SPECIFICALLY aimed at Black people, but Black influenced.

Ask 'Jessie J, Sam Smith, fucking embarrassingly Mick fucking Hucknall or Jamiroqui.

"Black Origin", not Black People.

That would be MOBP, which is not as catchy...

 

[Scottyboi]

Trust me I am not the problem on here. But I’m currently making a list of those that are. Don’t worry, none of the names will surprise you.

A dossier? Bb2.0 will give you a hand.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Trust me I am not the problem on here. But I’m currently making a list of those that are. Don’t worry, none of the names will surprise you.

History tends to judge people who put other people on lists quite harshly. Just saying, maybe yours will be different :-)

 

[blueinsa]

I think you don't understand what the MOBO is.

It's not SPECIFICALLY aimed at Black people, but Black influenced.

Ask 'Jessie J, Sam Smith, fucking embarrassingly Mick fucking Hucknall or Jamiroqui.

"Black Origin", not Black People.

That would be MOBP, which is not as catchy...

I both fully understand what they are and support them.

Too many, reading posts or seeing the author and then going off at some tangent here im afraid.

Its like Twitter on here these days. Agree completely or be denounced. Racism is abhorrent, said it countless times but fuck me, dare to even question someone or something even slightly and bang, the shouty loudmouths are off and that isnt directed at you personally.

Its fucking tiresome and its turning this place to shit.

 

[BobKowalski]

Open to all, we are all Brits regardless of colour.

You are really struggling here Bob.

It was a joke. But also contained some truths. The MOBO’s were created to give a voice to black artists overlooked by more mainstream i.e. white outlets. Like MTV barring black artists in the early eighties. You would be surprised at how often black music and musicians struggled to get airtime.

It’s a bit like people complaining about black history month and why isn’t there a white history month. The answer is that it is white history month for the rest of the year and black or ethnic contributions are usually ‘whitewashed’ out.

If you deny people a voice or a stage don’t get offended when they create their own. Here endeth today’s lesson.

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Antifa are the main one here, similarly to the US.

They tend to show up and start fights.

But "Antifa" isn't a group. There's no leader, no HQ, no collective statement nor official platform, at least not in the US. So "members" if they can be called that are actually just using the cover of a protest to cause trouble and destroy and harm and vandalise. They aren't representative of the "far left" or any ideology. They're just thugs using a name.

Even so, you don't have to be far left to be anti-fascist, do you?

 

[Bigga]

I both fully understand what they are and support them.

Too many, reading posts or seeing the author and then going off at some tangent here im afraid.

Its like Twitter on here these days. Agree completely or be denounced. Racism is abhorrent, said it countless times but fuck me, dare to even question someone or something even slightly and bang, the shouty loudmouths are off and that isnt directed at you personally.

Its fucking tiresome and its turning this place to shit.

I can appreciate that.

Have had my fair share to swing my bat at!

 

[BobKowalski]

I think you don't understand what the MOBO is.

It's not SPECIFICALLY aimed at Black people, but Black influenced.

Ask 'Jessie J, Sam Smith, fucking embarrassingly Mick fucking Hucknall or Jamiroqui.

"Black Origin", not Black People.

That would be MOBP, which is not as catchy...

You put it better than me. Knew I should have looked it up.

 

[Cheesy]

A dossier? Bb2.0 will give you a hand.

This place was mighty funny back then :-)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

But "Antifa" isn't a group. There's no leader, no HQ, no collective statement nor official platform, at least not in the US. So "members" if they can be called that are actually just using the cover of a protest to cause trouble and destroy and harm and vandalise. They aren't representative of the "far left" or any ideology. They're just thugs using a name.

Even so, you don't have to be far left to be anti-fascist, do you?

I've long thought that. Just a handy label for trouble makers at otherwise peaceful protests.

 

[Fame Monster]

He is referring to ‘white’ I imagine.

You know when we have campaigns like ‘Buy British’ or ‘support your local retailers’? It’s like that. But for black owned businesses.

Does anyone believe that black people aren't British these days, bar a few cunts on the far left or far right of politics?

 

[Metal Biker]

History tends to judge people who put other people on lists quite harshly. Just saying, maybe yours will be different :-)

I dunno. Oskar Schindler kinda redeemed himself ;)

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Does anyone believe that black people aren't British these days, bar a few cunts on the far left or far right of politics?

Piriti Patel maybe?

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I dunno. Oskar Schindler kinda redeemed himself ;)

Fair one.

 

[BobKowalski]

Does anyone believe that black people aren't British these days, bar a few cunts on the far left or far right of politics?

The PM, most of the cabinet, the Tory party, Tories - pretty much all those involved in the ‘Windrush’ scandal. Farage, that Robinson bloke, Brendan O’Neil, the Daily Mail, Telegraph- it’s quite a long list. Are we including Muslims? We could be here awhile if we are.

 

[BobKowalski]

But "Antifa" isn't a group. There's no leader, no HQ, no collective statement nor official platform, at least not in the US. So "members" if they can be called that are actually just using the cover of a protest to cause trouble and destroy and harm and vandalise. They aren't representative of the "far left" or any ideology. They're just thugs using a name.

Even so, you don't have to be far left to be anti-fascist, do you?

Antifa is just the boogyman Conservatives frighten their children with. Bit like John Wick.