George Floyd murder | Clashes between US police and protestors

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You can't say both sides of the scratching post though and you can't even specify that the far left is as bad as the far right, if you don't take one of the others side then you're either a facsist Nazi or a Commie Anarchist, you have to fit into one of the two camps.

The message is that thuggery is accepted from whatever side your narrative fits, your fight is the good one, you are fighting evil and out there to do good.

A commie anarchist. Its very late and I am trying to think how the fuck you could have a commie anarchist. It makes absolutely no sense at all. I will think that one through in the morning, because I am fucked if I can work out how that would work.
 
I don't believe I am bud not at all, I was disgusted with the violence last week and I am utterly disgusted with the violence that happened today. That's not conflating that's consistency. Now I am no pacifist by any stretch of the imagination but this subservience to a cause be it left or right today is a cancer in our society.
Pretty much everyone has condemned the violence on here, both last weekend and this, from what I’ve seen.

You said “the message is that thuggery is accepted from whatever side your narrative fits”. Can you point out who is saying that, and where?
 
The message is that thuggery is accepted from whatever side your narrative fits, your fight is the good one, you are fighting evil and out there to do good.

No one is saying that (other than perhaps a few mad outliers) and you know that.

You and a handful of others are skulking around this thread, picking and choosing what you reply to.

A coherent argument has been set out several times by several people, condemning all people involved in violence but making it clear why the language of equivalence applied to the two 'causes/protests' is ridiculous, disingenuous and deliberately equating the majority of what has been seen today (the violent far right actively seeking violence and to spread hate) with the majority last week (a broad section of society acting peacefully for what most of the country see as a cause with at least some degree of truth and not motivated by hate).

It's shithouse behaviour and it is even more shithouse behaviour that you can't address that argument and instead seek to make out that there are huge swaths of people seeking to justify violence from one side or another to deflect from it.
 
I saw very few people “find excuses for last weeks wankers”, tbf. Most seemed universal in their criticism of those who attacked the police. Certainly seeing a few people who are very eager to lump in two entirely separate and different events today though.
My priorities are pretty straight-forward:

"For me the utter disregard for the social-distancing requirements and therefore contempt for the lives of others is another despicable aspect - people simply considering that their need to voice their views is more important than the safety of others"

I m not excusing either set of cunts - although I have seen plenty of posts on here from people 'differentiating' between them
 
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Pretty much everyone has condemned the violence on here, both last weekend and this, from what I’ve seen.

You said “the message is that thuggery is accepted from whatever side your narrative fits”. Can you point out who is saying that, and where?

I'm sticking with what I posted, because it's true. You have got people who are radical left wingers who have posted things along the lines without violence nothing changes citing instances like the poll tax riots and even posters calling for the police to be smashed and fuck them all.

The far right however have no reason to gloat because they too area bunch of imbeciles hell bent on attacking the police and authority too, as I said it's even handed.
 
My priorities are pretty straight-forward:

"For me the utter disregard for the social-distancing requirements and therefore contempt for the lives of others is another despicable aspect - people simply considering that their need to voice their views is more important than the safety of others"

I m not excusing either set of cunts - although I have seen plenty of posts on here from people doing so

Of course, social distancing is definitely one criticism that can be applied to everyone. That is true and a criticism I agree with to a large degree.
 
A commie anarchist. Its very late and I am trying to think how the fuck you could have a commie anarchist. It makes absolutely no sense at all. I will think that one through in the morning, because I am fucked if I can work out how that would work.

I am describing the pigeonhole right wingers would use against someone with opposing views, it wasn't a precise description but a description that gets thrown out by their opposing enemy.
 
I'm sticking with what I posted, because it's true. You have got people who are radical left wingers who have posted things along the lines without violence nothing changes citing instances like the poll tax riots and even posters calling for the police to be smashed and fuck them all.

The far right however have no reason to gloat because they too area bunch of imbeciles hell bent on attacking the police and authority too, as I said it's even handed.
Not sure there’s much point in me replying, as @jma did so far more articulately above.
 
I don't believe I am bud not at all, I was disgusted with the violence last week and I am utterly disgusted with the violence that happened today. That's not conflating that's consistency. Now I am no pacifist by any stretch of the imagination but this subservience to a cause be it left or right today is a cancer in our society.

Pretty sure most on here have condemned the violence from both protests. Me included.

The issue then becomes the context:

- Last week the violence came from the minority, out of thousands and thousands of people. However the majority weren't looking for violence only to spread an important message about equality, the violence from a few shouldn't make us forget that.

- Todays protest was about what? The only okay answer is the statues and even that is pathetic as they were already adequately protected. The reality is that the majority of today's protest just went out looking for a fight and tried to shit all over last weeks protest with their racist, bigoted views.

Nobody is saying that violence from either protest is acceptable but it also isn't fair to lump the 2 protests together.
 
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No one is saying that (other than perhaps a few mad outliers) and you know that.

You and a handful of others are skulking around this thread, picking and choosing what you reply to.

A coherent argument has been set out several times by several people, condemning all people involved in violence but making it clear why the language of equivalence applied to the two 'causes/protests' is ridiculous, disingenuous and deliberately equating the majority of what has been seen today (the violent far right actively seeking violence and to spread hate) with the majority last week (a broad section of society acting peacefully for what most of the country see as a cause with at least some degree of truth and not motivated by hate).

It's shithouse behaviour and it is even more shithouse behaviour that you can't address that argument and instead seek to make out that there are huge swaths of people seeking to justify violence from one side or another to deflect from it.

I don't agree with you at all, if you believe that the far left is OK and that anarchists aren't as bad as the extreme right then that's your right to do so. Many of the others on this thread think they are both as bad as each other and your reply just supports the post I made earlier.

As someone said upthread, find an island and put them all on there.
 
My priorities are pretty straight-forward:

"For me the utter disregard for the social-distancing requirements and therefore contempt for the lives of others is another despicable aspect - people simply considering that their need to voice their views is more important than the safety of others"

I m not excusing either set of cunts - although I have seen plenty of posts on here from people doing so
I notice that was a point made after my reply to you, but agree broadly on the social distancing point, as I said last weekend.

Do you accept though that comparing this weekend and last is hardly a like for like analogy? Interested to hear your thoughts on this.
 
I don’t think it’s “playground” stuff to point out the very clear and obvious differences between last weekend and this weekend, tbh.
You point it out from your point of view
Somebody on the other side counters with his point of view and neither see anything wrong with what you believe and blame the others.
People get insulted on here for saying ALL lives matter. They certainly matter to me.
The plight of black kids in Africa does not seem to be a concern to the BLM side and.of course no concern to the other lot but those black kids matter to me.
Both sides squabble with each other and apparently fighting at Waterloo station. That is playground behaviour to me.
And meanwhile a pandemic is sweeping the world.
 
I don't agree with you at all, if you believe that the far left is OK and that anarchists aren't as bad as the extreme right then that's your right to do so. Many of the others on this thread think they are both as bad as each other and your reply just supports the post I made earlier.

As someone said upthread, find an island and put them all on there.

You must be fucking stupid if you think that this is what I (or anyone else that I can see) said above.

It verges on the unbelievable that you would think it.

A big part of me wants to believe that you are that dim and you genuinely believe that.

It's better than the other option.
 
You point it out from your point of view
Somebody on the other side counters with his point of view and neither see anything wrong with what you believe and blame the others.
People get insulted on here for saying ALL lives matter. They certainly matter to me.
The plight of black kids in Africa does not seem to be a concern to the BLM side and.of course no concern to the other lot but those black kids matter to me.
Both sides squabble with each other and apparently fighting at Waterloo station. That is playground behaviour to me.
And meanwhile a pandemic is sweeping the world.
I think people get criticised for saying “ALL Lives Matter” because it’s become a racist trope, but I’m sure you already know that.
 
I notice that was a point made after my reply to you, but agree broadly on the social distancing point, as I said last weekend.

Do you accept though that comparing this weekend and last is hardly a like for like analogy? Interested to hear your thoughts on this.
I just added to my point as I caught up with my post and re-read it - adding something from another post - so nothing to do with your reply

I am very straight-forward.

I loathe utterly every aspect of the premeditated actions of those that were looking for trouble today - thick cunts

I loathe utterly every aspect of the (likely) premeditated actions of those that used last weeks events to cause violence - exploitative cunts

I have a great degree of contempt for the self-entitled attitudes of those that chose to disregard the social-distancing rules in these crucial times and therefore demonstrate their contempt for the safety and lives of others - selfish cunts

There should not be any inference that I have any level of support for the cunts that were out looking for trouble today and demonstrate that by expressing my views as stated above - that is a false thing to suggest
 
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