Bundesliga 2019/20

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I've been keeping half an eye on FC Schalke 04.......don't really know why

Any St Pauli fans?

Like to see St Pauli doing well because of what they represent as a club. Also Kaiserslautern and Hoffenheim (ended up in the Hoffenheim end at Dortmund for my stag do, crackin support!)

Hamburg have just absolutely blown their chance of promotion. Lost 5-1 at home to a small side (Sandhausen) when all they needed was a point. Absolutely threw it away when only a few weeks ago they were favourites for automatic promotion.
 
Hamburg (HSV) is such a shit show its unbelievable. I do want them back in the BuLi because it is 10 times more interesting to play them at home or away than playing the likes of Paderborn, but their comical fall from grace is a sight to behold.
Especially considering the attitude of their supporters that they deserve better because of their history.

The season has been really strange and I personally lost almost all interest in football after the corona break. Football is just not the same without fans and to me it felt incredible emotionless. After talking to some of my mates/relatives who support different clubs it felt the same for them.
 
Beaten at home 5-1. Shambles really.

Werder Bremen v Heidenheim in the playoff.

Almost as big a story is Nürnberg having to play in the relegation playoff to try and avoid consecutive relegations.

After 11 years though, Bundesliga returns to Bielefeld (if it actually exists).

Nürnberg. Do you think Furth blew it on purpose?

My favs are Aachen and Dresden. Dresden confirmed as relegated to the 3rd tier yesterday but thousands of fans turned up at the ground to cheer them. Brilliant support, remind me of City in the dark days.
 
Nürnberg. Do you think Furth blew it on purpose?
I'm sure the Fürth fans will say thats the case. They will be enjoying the predicament that Nürnberg find themselves though, and the satisfaction of finishing above them regardless.

My favs are Aachen and Dresden. Dresden confirmed as relegated to the 3rd tier yesterday but thousands of fans turned up at the ground to cheer them. Brilliant support, remind me of City in the dark days.
Thoroughly enjoyed my visits to both Aachen and Dresden. Both are really nice cities. I was close to "adopting" Aachen as my German team right up until the point at which they started singing YNWA. Urgh.

I saw the video of the Dresden fans at the ground. Impressive but not a lot of social distancing going on!

Not looking good for many of the sides from former East Germany (RB Leipzig aside). Dresden down in BuLi 2, Carl Zeiss Jena down in 3 Liga, with potentially two out of Zwickau, Chemnitz, Magdeburg, and Hallescher joining them.

To counter that, Lok Leipzig play Verl in the Regionnaliga play offs 2nd leg tomorrow night. First Leg finished 2-2.
 
I'm sure the Fürth fans will say thats the case. They will be enjoying the predicament that Nürnberg find themselves though, and the satisfaction of finishing above them regardless.


Thoroughly enjoyed my visits to both Aachen and Dresden. Both are really nice cities. I was close to "adopting" Aachen as my German team right up until the point at which they started singing YNWA. Urgh.

I saw the video of the Dresden fans at the ground. Impressive but not a lot of social distancing going on!

Not looking good for many of the sides from former East Germany (RB Leipzig aside). Dresden down in BuLi 2, Carl Zeiss Jena down in 3 Liga, with potentially two out of Zwickau, Chemnitz, Magdeburg, and Hallescher joining them.

To counter that, Lok Leipzig play Verl in the Regionnaliga play offs 2nd leg tomorrow night. First Leg finished 2-2.

Saw them play Lille in UEFA Cup a few years ago (in Cologne) and a couple of times since. Must admit never heard the YNWA bollox so hoping I never do.

Got a mate whos lived in Dresden 20 odd years so been there also, wonderful city and the fans are the best.
 
Saw them play Lille in UEFA Cup a few years ago (in Cologne) and a couple of times since. Must admit never heard the YNWA bollox so hoping I never do.

Got a mate whos lived in Dresden 20 odd years so been there also, wonderful city and the fans are the best.
Would either of you recommend Dresden for a group of 8 blokes? I know you both say it’s a great place but I’ve been apprehensive about the East of Germany being as welcoming to a group of English blokes as we’ve found the Rhine / Ruhr region to be.
 
Would either of you recommend Dresden for a group of 8 blokes? I know you both say it’s a great place but I’ve been apprehensive about the East of Germany being as welcoming to a group of English blokes as we’ve found the Rhine / Ruhr region to be.

I also went to Leipzig and didnt have problems. There was a few Brits who live in Dresden I went to the game with and a serious drink after and again all fine.

Dont believe all the shit in the media, I felt more safe in Leipzig and Dresden than I did in say somewhere like Frankfurt.
 
I also went to Leipzig and didnt have problems. There was a few Brits who live in Dresden I went to the game with and a serious drink after and again all fine.

Dont believe all the shit in the media, I felt more safe in Leipzig and Dresden than I did in say somewhere like Frankfurt.
I visited Dresden while at uni in Potsdam.

Unfortunately, On the day I chose to go there, it pissed down with rain all day and spoilt my day out, though it couldn’t hide the brilliant job the East German authorities did rebuilding the city after the terrible bombing attacks it was subject to during the war.
some of the architecture is truly stunning.
 
I can't stand seeing Bayern Munich winning all the time-every year. Monopolies are killing the game & we are supposed to admire doubles, trebles etc-nightmare. We are seeing monopolies typical of rampant capitalism i.e. little or no competition against a very, very select few/elite.
 
Would either of you recommend Dresden for a group of 8 blokes?
Yes.
I know you both say it’s a great place but I’ve been apprehensive about the East of Germany being as welcoming to a group of English blokes as we’ve found the Rhine / Ruhr region to be.
Without being too cynical about things, if you're going anywhere to spend your money, the locals will be polite and welcoming.

Outside of Berlin, my first visit to East Germany was to Rostock. I too was apprehensive about going, just because I had (baseless) preconceptions about what "East Germany" would be like. My preconceptions were wrong, and whilst I imagine it was damaged in the war that wasn't evident, and it had baltic/scandic architecture (due to proximity) so it didn't even seem like Germany in parts. I've since been to Leipzig, Dresden and Chemnitz. None of them resembled any of my preconceptions and I didn't feel unwelcome anywhere.

Its probably a little closer to Prague than Berlin, so if you are wanting to coincide a double header, going via Prague is a decent option. My itinery from last October was;

Game in Prague on a Friday night (Bohemians) >
Got a coach to Dresden immediately after the game, hotel in Dresden >
Train to Chemnitz on Saturday morning to see them play, back to Dresden, good look around Dresden >
Sunday morning continue looking around Dresden, then watch them play at lunchtime, coach back to Prague >
Sunday evening, Prague derby Sparta v Slavia
Look round Prague on Monday, flew home in the evening.

Great trip, but you cant always guarantee the fixtures will fall as nicely.

Dresden in my opinion is almost more suited to a city break with the other half, but at the end of the day - beers, bratwurst, and football is a good combination anywhere.
 
Yes.

Without being too cynical about things, if you're going anywhere to spend your money, the locals will be polite and welcoming.

Outside of Berlin, my first visit to East Germany was to Rostock. I too was apprehensive about going, just because I had (baseless) preconceptions about what "East Germany" would be like. My preconceptions were wrong, and whilst I imagine it was damaged in the war that wasn't evident, and it had baltic/scandic architecture (due to proximity) so it didn't even seem like Germany in parts. I've since been to Leipzig, Dresden and Chemnitz. None of them resembled any of my preconceptions and I didn't feel unwelcome anywhere.

Its probably a little closer to Prague than Berlin, so if you are wanting to coincide a double header, going via Prague is a decent option. My itinery from last October was;

Game in Prague on a Friday night (Bohemians) >
Got a coach to Dresden immediately after the game, hotel in Dresden >
Train to Chemnitz on Saturday morning to see them play, back to Dresden, good look around Dresden >
Sunday morning continue looking around Dresden, then watch them play at lunchtime, coach back to Prague >
Sunday evening, Prague derby Sparta v Slavia
Look round Prague on Monday, flew home in the evening.

Great trip, but you cant always guarantee the fixtures will fall as nicely.

Dresden in my opinion is almost more suited to a city break with the other half, but at the end of the day - beers, bratwurst, and football is a good combination anywhere.
That's what has troubled me - my own preconceptions.

There's a plethora of options for our next trip. I have a spreadsheet on my laptop with distances to other clubs from a number of cities such as Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt... I'm such a geek.

We've been to Koln twice (me a third time with my son) and whilst we loved every minute, we're aware that other areas of Germany will be just as amazing. The dream is to stay somewhere miles from Koln but go in the away end to watch them.

As for your trip, it sounds amazing - however - I once went for a weekend with my mates to what I now refer to as "The 'P' word". I hadn't met my missus at the time but such was the overhang, it's still never mentioned in our house 20 years later. She doesn't bat an eyelid about me going to Germany but stepping foot over that particular border wouldn't be good for my wellbeing when I returned home. I'm sure we'll meet one day and I'll tell you more.
 
That's what has troubled me - my own preconceptions.

There's a plethora of options for our next trip. I have a spreadsheet on my laptop with distances to other clubs from a number of cities such as Berlin, Hamburg, Munich, Frankfurt... I'm such a geek.

We've been to Koln twice (me a third time with my son) and whilst we loved every minute, we're aware that other areas of Germany will be just as amazing. The dream is to stay somewhere miles from Koln but go in the away end to watch them.

As for your trip, it sounds amazing - however - I once went for a weekend with my mates to what I now refer to as "The 'P' word". I hadn't met my missus at the time but such was the overhang, it's still never mentioned in our house 20 years later. She doesn't bat an eyelid about me going to Germany but stepping foot over that particular border wouldn't be good for my wellbeing when I returned home. I'm sure we'll meet one day and I'll tell you more.
I think I can get the gist. It was unplanned, but my boss was on a stag do in Prague that weekend so joined him and the group he was with on the Sunday night. I hadn't been on the lash the whole day though so was in a better state and witnessed some pretty compromising things. Its not been discussed since but my appraisal a few months later went very well.

I imagine Köln away end tickets are very hard to come by, especially 8 of them. I think you've got a better chance going in the home end sat next to the away end. As you may be aware, they're generally ok with away fans sitting there and wearing colours, cheering etc.

For a group of blokes, Hamburg is a good option, and I'd reccommend Bremen too. Munich is good but tickets will be hard to come by if you want to see Bayern. The ground 1860 play at is fantastic in my opinion though.

I am told Türkgücu München who have just been promoted to 3 Liga, will play most of their games at Würzburg which isn't in Munich, but will be allowed to play some games next season at the Olympiastadion. I will be trying to get to a game there.
 
I am told Türkgücu München who have just been promoted to 3 Liga, will play most of their games at Würzburg which isn't in Munich, but will be allowed to play some games next season at the Olympiastadion. I will be trying to get to a game there.
Partially why I am not against the idea of Ingolstadt bottling their promotion bid.
 
I imagine Köln away end tickets are very hard to come by, especially 8 of them. I think you've got a better chance going in the home end sat next to the away end. As you may be aware, they're generally ok with away fans sitting there and wearing colours, cheering etc.

Cologne away to Hertha Berlin springs to mind, large away allocation that won't sell out (nor will the home end).
 
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