UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Marvin]

How can there be!
We were investigated by UEFA's club control body, found in breach of their regulations and punished accordingly

You make it sound like it was all fair and above board, with the media just neutrally reporting the facts but it does not work like that. This was never a level playing field.

 

[blueinsa]

@projectriver is it possible that City and UEFA know the verdict ahead of the 13th? In other words they know now?

Some of the comments and reported mood at City seem more than optimism?

Convinced they do so that prepared media responses can be written.

Neither is waking up on the 13th not knowing still and then having to face the media.

 

[dickie davies]

You make it sound like it was all fair and above board, with the media just neutrally reporting the facts but it does not work like that. This was never a level playing field.

Do we know that yet?
The poster I replied to asked if we would sue certain media for reporting that we are guilty
I merely pointed out that we were investigated and been found guilty so how can we sue
Until CAS uphold our appeal we are guilty and in fact, depending upon the reason/s for our appeal to be upheld, we could quite easily still be reported as being guilty

 

[slbsn]

@projectriver is it possible that City and UEFA know the verdict ahead of the 13th? In other words they know now?

Some of the comments and reported mood at City seem more than optimism?

They will know before the public - maybe on 9/10 July(?) but everything I have seen including Pep's answer to the CAS question in the most recent press conference suggests they don't know yet. He was folding his arms, covering his face etc. I don't think they know. They may have a gut feeling (and it may well be positive) but I don't think they know yet.

 

[Marvin]

Do we know that yet?
The poster I replied to asked if we would sue certain media for reporting that we are guilty
I merely pointed out that we were investigated and been found guilty so how can we sue
Until CAS uphold our appeal we are guilty and in fact, depending upon the reason/s for our appeal to be upheld, we could quite easily still be reported as being guilty

By guilty, you mean UEFA's investigation found City guilty. I do not accept guilt until I see evidence of it. All I have seen so far is a decade of machination from G14 clubs and the likes of Tebas, Man Utd, Liverpool etc. Most Utd and Liverpool fans know what's going on. It's about laying a trap and catching a prey. Justice does not come into it,it's about the end result and then dirtying the name of your rival. I just hope they don't get away with it. If they don't there will be a calling to account but I am not sure how we will do it but we will. Either way in fact we will do it because I doubt Sheikh Mansour and Manchester City fans are just going to walk away.

 

[Scott mcfc]

The body language from pep an team ect has been nothing but a good thing,im pretty sure the club knows,yess they are waitin for a verdict,but the size of the case presented by citys lawyers ,wouldent of been fully validated in 3 days,and i personally think thats why the 3 week verdict answer was put in place just so they are 100 percent truthfull and correct,i do think this would of been done by now,and this is why the odd leaks will come out for sure,but body language is huge,as im sure it would be alot diffrent if not goin our way,i just think how can you not trust in our club,look at what they have done for us

 

[Centurions]

Won’t the result be a win or loss with CAS though?

If you mean will CAS either fully uphold UEFAs assertions or totally exonerate us then, no. There are many middle ground options in play although it could be argued that anything less than total exoneration would be a loss for us.

 

[BringBackSwales]

How can there be!
We were investigated by UEFA's club control body, found in breach of their regulations and punished accordingly

It’s official, you can now remove the ie davies

 

[GBrannan]

I'm fairly certain that I've seen somewhere that CAS let the club(s) involved & UEFA know earlier. This is presuming that the 13th is the public release.

This seems to outline the process that the CAS take. I’m guessing we’re under Section C, starting about half way down the page.

https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/code-procedural-rules.html

Within this, R59 then seems to explain the process for how it all plays out regarding announcements etc.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Might not be their choice. Not sure what and how would follow. Gets highly speculative after that.

We will get exonerated

 

[TheThirdDeano]

You're the second to make that leap. He said it went the opposite way to what he thought (it would), not the opposite way to what he wanted. His secret is safe.

I would argue the fact he was surprised by the result and followed that with la Hope it’s gone better than last time has given the game away.

 

[KS55]

I would argue the fact he was surprised by the result and followed that with la Hope it’s gone better than last time has given the game away.

Yes, it is a bad habit here to ignore what a poster actually says, but read into it some other meaning.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

They will know before the public - maybe on 9/10 July(?) but everything I have seen including Pep's answer to the CAS question in the most recent press conference suggests they don't know yet. He was folding his arms, covering his face etc. I don't think they know. They may have a gut feeling (and it may well be positive) but I don't think they know yet.

I'd think Guardiola won't know until after his last interview prior to the announcement - just to avoid a slip during the inevitable questions.

 

[Coatigan]

This seems to outline the process that the CAS take. I’m guessing we’re under Section C, starting about half way down the page.

https://www.tas-cas.org/en/arbitration/code-procedural-rules.html

Within this, R59 then seems to explain the process for how it all plays out regarding announcements etc.

Interesting, thanks for sharing that.

it notes the decision is made known to the parties before the official release of the decision (and at that point becomes binding). Doesn't however say how far in advance or how close.

So in theory, the club Could know. I personally doubt they do, i would imagine that 'advance' would be a week or even a few days before. But no time is specified, so could be a month before in theory.

Thereafter the written part and full justification can be realeased up to 3 months after the verdict statement, as i understand it, and is only made public if both parties agree.

 

[jaiguruKun]

Interesting, thanks for sharing that.

it notes the decision is made known to the parties before the official release of the decision (and at that point becomes binding). Doesn't however say how far in advance or how close.

So in theory, the club Could know. I personally doubt they do, i would imagine that 'advance' would be a week or even a few days before. But no time is specified, so could be a month before in theory.

Thereafter the written part and full justification can be realeased up to 3 months after the verdict statement, as i understand it, and is only made public if both parties agree.

So we could lose without any of us having a scooby doo what it is we've done. Seems fair.

 

[Fazz28]

I'd think Guardiola won't know until after his last interview prior to the announcement - just to avoid a slip during the inevitable questions.

hes not the best at hiding things, and he's answered alot lately that champions league is confirmed, maybe im reading too much into it, I personally think they already know.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

hes not the best at hiding things, and he's answered alot lately that champions league is confirmed, maybe im reading too much into it, I personally think they already know.

Nope, they don't know. If UEFA knew then it would be in the media. They are not the best at keeping secrets as we know.

 

[Prestwich_Blue]

Interesting, thanks for sharing that.

it notes the decision is made known to the parties before the official release of the decision (and at that point becomes binding). Doesn't however say how far in advance or how close.

So in theory, the club Could know. I personally doubt they do, i would imagine that 'advance' would be a week or even a few days before. But no time is specified, so could be a month before in theory.

Thereafter the written part and full justification can be realeased up to 3 months after the verdict statement, as i understand it, and is only made public if both parties agree.

I'd guess that the decision was already made & signed off by the CAS President when they confirmed the date they would be releasing it. That seems to suggest the decision would have been made the week before last, if not earlier. Therefore it's quite possible that the club could already know.

Also we have no idea what actually happened at CAS. It's possible UEFA (despite what some hacks were saying) only really presented the Der Spiegel stories as their main evidence. Maybe the CAS panel asked if that was it, and whether they had any direct evidence of these allegations, with UEFA saying they had nothing else. Or something else may have happened there that made UEFA look like complete dicks.

 

[Coatigan]

Nope, they don't know. If UEFA knew then it would be in the media. They are not the best at keeping secrets as we know.

You can say that with no more certainty though.

I agree with you, i think they don't know. But that isn't a given that some claim it definitely is.

The only certainty is there is no certainty.

 

[laserblue]

Nope, they don't know. If UEFA knew then it would be in the media. They are not the best at keeping secrets as we know.

Then again UEFA only leak stuff that's favourable to them. Then again who knows?