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UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST
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Lovebitesandeveryfing
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If you play it backwards he admits to being the mole at the club for UEFA.
I see which generation you’re from. That dates you...
;-)
(We did all that shit, and if you want to, you can hear John saying “I buried Paul”. Just as you can see Pep thinking, “So... how am I going to set the lads up away at York?”)
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They just know a lot of Kev's current contract is weighted against participating in the Champions League.
Irrespective, aside from the verdict, the biggest thing I am looking forward to is Pep's promise to give his views on it.
Dynamite.
I'm certain we have had a positive result.
What promise is that, was it said in public?
Happy Birthday Dude!Wish I had given this place a swerve now after such a good result.
I've been supremely confident about our CAS chances but plenty are coming out the woodwork to basically clarion call the doubt demons.
It's my birthday tomorrow too. Bastards.
Damn you body language experts and eternal pessimists!
There was one line in this article which I found a little odd. https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/pep-guardiola-given-assurances-man-22302752
"Guardiola has insisted he will honour the final year of his contract regardless of the outcome. But that stance was based on assurances from his employers that the case against the club is flawed before the verdict was handed down."
Most likely it's journalistic shenanigans, but any chance it's based on something Pep has said? Bigging up the reassurances sounds hopeful, but if you want to look like the good guy when you leave, then maybe that's what you'd do whatever the outcome?
He has since said, multiple times, that he will see out his contract (at least), no matter what, regardless of the outcome, etc etc. The only way he goes is if the club sack him, repeatedly said that. Doesn't get ant clearer.
Any journalist speculating otherwise is embarrassingly full of shit.
blue b4 the moon
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You’ve not been listening to this have you? :)
Dickhead, reminded me why I don't put talkragshite on now unless I'm driving and there's a game on the radio ....Nat came across really well but thinking of her career stopped short of using the term plastic.
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You obviously missed the way Otto kept kicking the ball into the stands in frustration. A sure sign we are fucked. ;-)You are seemingly intent on only looking for any negative signs, this is what's known as confirmation bias(others may simply call it flapping). You were doing that at least as far back as June by the looks of it.
Other people watched the same interview(myself included) and wondered just what you think you were seeing. I think you should just calm down a bit and wait for the outcome.
I'm staying neutral, there's no softening the blow if it's upheld, so there's really no point convincing yourself you know it's been upheld beforehand. I also don't want to get too certain about it being squashed either, as even if we are innocent and they haven't proven otherwise, it's not always enough in this day and age.
No and no.
No and Yes.
A country Can have 5 teams.
Doesn't apply in the slightest in this case though, as you say.
Think the club will find out Friday tbh, doubt CAS would drop the news during the weekend.
I personally not so secretly think they found out sometime shortly after the date was announced.
Hopefully around the time pep's positivity noticeably increased publicly.
I don’t think they look happy. Maybe we are all fucked.
Yeah, silva is smiling with his mouth, but defo a pixel of hidden sadness in his eyes.
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Would be the perfect way to bury the bad news of a humungous loss of face. I would 't put anything past them.Is baconface poorly again?
Can someone explain why CAS need to tell anyone in advance the results of their deliberation. Like a judge announcing in advance to your lawyer that your getting five years, then your lawyer coming down to the cells to tell you, then you going back up to court to hear a sentence being dished out you already know the details of. All bollocks and speculation this thread.
It is in their rule book. They definitely let both parties know before. That is not debatable at all.
How far in advance, that is.
In their procedure, they say the three judges recommend the outcome, the president decides it. And then it states that they notify both parties. So, if you wanted to, which i do, you Could read into that that both parties know as soon as the president signs the decision. Which, again, i want to, would coincide with CAS releaskng the date the decision will be made public. Which, happens to coincide with a burst of bravado reported around the club, by pep and behind the scenes.
That of course is pure speculation (fucking contagious this positivity optimism malarkey isnt it). But the fact that they let both party know in advance is in fact, de facto and ipso facto, a fact.
I doubt it, CAS will probably release the decision to the public/media first thing Monday morning I would assume.
Think City and uefa will find out Friday, gives both a chance to prepare statements for the Monday.
I could be miles off, just think this timeline would make sense.
Well all eyes on everyone's body language during the draw on friday then!
i8rags
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Is it your birthday by any chance,We have Wotsits, Bacon Frazzles and pickled onion Monster Munch.
All the best.
Joking aside Pep was very relaxed in the media press conference. He doesn't know yet.
Yep. He still says in that that we need 1 point to be in the CL next season and we find out on the 13th. He doesn't know the outcome, yet.
SilverFox2
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Happy Birthday S.Oh, I have them too. My wife also does me potted beef sarnies!!
She doesn't quite get it but my birthday buffet is law in my household.
My kids wouldn't have it any other way now.
You have jogged my memory about the first party I went to as an 8 or 10 year old and us kids marvelled at the fact they had real meat paste triangular sandwiches there.
Many years ago in my case of course but thanks for the detail.
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It is in their rule book. They definitely let both parties know before. That is not debatable at all.
How far in advance, that is.
In their procedure, they say the three judges recommend the outcome, the president decides it. And then it states that they notify both parties. So, if you wanted to, which i do, you Could read into that that both parties know as soon as the president signs the decision. Which, again, i want to, would coincide with CAS releaskng the date the decision will be made public. Which, happens to coincide with a burst of bravado reported around the club, by pep and behind the scenes.
That of course is pure speculation (fucking contagious this positivity optimism malarkey isnt it). But the fact that they let both party know in advance is in fact, de facto and ipso facto, a fact.
Spot on. It's important people don't make comparisons to a criminal case where a jury make the decision and the judge makes a sentence.
This is an appeal based on City providing evidence that the punishment is not justified procedurally and/or providing evidence that we are not guilty of the accusations.
We know City have grounds to challenge the decision procedurally. Breach of protocols with 3 named leaks to press. Perhaps the settlement agreement/time limit is another (don't know for certain on this).
That's before you then look at what new evidence UEFA's IC made their decision on. A few emails? Our position on this is strong. We haven't had to provide UEFA with anything other than what we need to in order to prove our evidence. They've had our accounts before and made a decision on them once. Now they're saying we lied, due to some emails. It wouldn't be hard to explain those emails and question how UEFA could make a new decision based on something it knew no context about (or did know and chose to ignore).
There are enough points for City to challenge for me to be confident we will win.
Having read the PSG case too, one thing comes across very strongly in the first CAS decision on our case and that is the fact we were never going to settle this time. There's a clear aggression from City on this and a clear tone of anger from UEFA - particularly that we suggest they breached confidentiality.
UEFA's argument on this was accepted at the time only because the IC hadn't issued a decision so procedurally we hadn't got a final decision to appeal. But City quite cleverly had already shown to CAS "worrisome" evidence and predicted what the decision would be before the event - based on leaks to the press.
Let's get the body language experts out on Friday to see what UEFA look like whenever our club gets mentioned.
the plasterer
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What’s the latest mood on Bluemoon then, positive still or we getting banned??
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What’s the latest mood on Bluemoon then, positive still or we getting banned??
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