BBC licence fee

[Ancient Citizen]

Yes, if people decide they want to pay to listen to the BBC's political
views, it should have no problem getting them to. If it's so valuable, and relevant
folk will pay, they're fighting tooth and nail to keep their privilege because they
know for a fact that very few would.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

My personal view is the TV license is state theft.

Licence.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

No - you'd lose about 95% of current out put and pay several times as much as you do now for the left over rump.

They are in the process of decriminalising non payment anyway aren't they?

And if you made it subscription based don't think thats a utopia that will suit non-payers - SKY etc can and do pursue users of their platform who don't subscribe as its classed as theft - the same people will commit the same offence and still get a criminal record for theft. So someone who can't afford the £150ish now for all the TV channels, local TV, Radio both national and local , on line content and iPlayer won't suddenly be able to afford the same or more in subs for a fraction of that out put.

The simple suggestion for those who can't pay the TV licence is to get a TV that costs about £150 less and with the saving pay for a licence.

 

[Fred_Quimby]

I have worked for the BBC in the distant past so I declare an interest.

What you see with the BBC ignores what you don't see. There is a reason the UK is the place so many great movies are made, their is a reason so many great documentaries are made and their is a reason why its still one of the great institutions that we the people own.

You can think what you like about its output, that is a personal choice. I don't watch EastEnders, but millions do, I like to watch Bargain Hunt but millions don't, I still prefer the BBC news to any other news channel although I don't mind SKY news.

What historically the BBC has always done well is produce the best technicians in the world, that's why people will come to the UK to make movies, drama's and documentaries because the technicians are the best there is anywhere in the world. It also has the best radio output of anywhere in the world and the crass decision to close down many of the BBC foreign language stations has diminished UK soft power.

Their is motive behind the attacks on the BBC, its because capitalists hate to see a good thing that they cant make money from. They want it in their hands so they can profit from it. The BBC makes profit, it sells programs world wide, if any of you have had a BBC pass card, it gets you entry into virtually anywhere because across the world the BBC is seen as a trustworthy organisation that is a bastion of Britishness.

Of course you could sell it off to a capitalist, who will turn it into another version of SKY TV where watching Andy Pandy costs a tenner, the technicians are paid minimum wage and are useless and the race to the bottom for another great British institution will carry on.

Those who wish to see it gone will maybe regret it one day, because once its gone, it aint coming back.

Couldn't have said it better. But there are non so blind as those that will not see.

 

[BobKowalski]

Yes, if people decide they want to pay to listen to the BBC's political
views, it should have no problem getting them to. If it's so valuable, and relevant
folk will pay, they're fighting tooth and nail to keep their privilege because they
know for a fact that very few would.

No one pays the license fee for the political programs. I’m happy to pay the fee to fund a public service broadcaster that is known throughout the world and is part of the fabric of this country. No idea why so many people hate this country so much that they advocate cultural vandalism.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

No one pays the license fee for the political programs. I’m happy to pay the fee to fund a public service broadcaster that is known throughout the world and is part of the fabric of this country. No idea why so many people hate this country so much that they advocate cultural vandalism.

Because this organisation, is now showing political bias, yes, what you
say was once true, it was once respected, but is now rapidly losing that respect. They
are stuffed with the likes of the bloke who wants anything that relates to British patriotism
removed from their content. Go 20 years back, and further and very few would be
calling for it to be defunded, now that movement is growing apace.

 

[mexico1970]

Because this organisation, is now showing political bias, yes, what you
say was once true, it was once respected, but is now rapidly losing that respect. They
are stuffed with the likes of the bloke who wants anything that relates to British patriotism
removed from their content. Go 20 years back, and further and very few would be
calling for it to be defunded, now that movement is growing apace.

People say that it's too right wing and people say it's too left wing. The real indicator of where its political swingometer is is to recognise who is actually defending it. Bang it behind a paywall and it'll slowly suffocate just like the Guardian has.

 

[Gabriel]

Think it’s always shown political bias, depending on your political persuasion and whether that’s represented by those in power or opposition. There’s something for everyone on the BBC, and as the country appears he’ll bent on tearing itself apart, anything that might glue people together seems worth the price.

 

[BobKowalski]

Because this organisation, is now showing political bias, yes, what you
say was once true, it was once respected, but is now rapidly losing that respect. They
are stuffed with the likes of the bloke who wants anything that relates to British patriotism
removed from their content. Go 20 years back, and further and very few would be
calling for it to be defunded, now that movement is growing apace.

Bollocks. Politicians and people have been complaining about BBC political bias since the days of Harold Wilson. And one guy suggests we don’t play certain songs at the Proms is unpatriotic? Fucks sake what world do you want to live in? Patriotic songs on a loop and swearing allegiance to the supreme leader no doubt would be your idea of a proper BBC.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

People say that it's too right wing and people say it's too left wing. The real indicator of where its political swingometer is is to recognise who is actually defending it. Bang it behind a paywall and it'll slowly suffocate just like the Guardian has.

Exactly,if anyone can say that the BBC is right wing, they must be to the left of Lenin.
Thousands are now cancelling subscriptions, and word is spreading.

 

[BobKowalski]

People say that it's too right wing and people say it's too left wing. The real indicator of where its political swingometer is is to recognise who is actually defending it. Bang it behind a paywall and it'll slowly suffocate just like the Guardian has.

Good idea. Put a public service broadcaster behind an expensive paywall so the public can’t afford to access it. Do you guys value anything other than some nihilistic hatred of everything?

 

[mexico1970]

Bollocks. Politicians and people have been complaining about BBC political bias since the days of Harold Wilson. And one guy suggests we don’t play certain songs at the Proms is unpatriotic? Fucks sake what world do you want to live in? Patriotic songs on a loop and swearing allegiance to the supreme leader no doubt would be your idea of a proper BBC.

It's the proms, it's about tradition and music that is embedded into our culture. This is like saying that people who turn up to see a drill set by whatever gangster is in vogue and end up with Lindesfarne should just shut up and listen.
If the BBC is for everyone and everyone has a section then this numpty who criticised it isn't living up to the ethos of the BBC, surely you can see that Bob can't you?

 

[mexico1970]

Good idea. Put a public service broadcaster behind an expensive paywall so the public can’t afford to access it. Do you guys value anything other than some nihilistic hatred of everything?

I don't want it to be a public service provider, that's my point bud.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Bollocks. Politicians and people have been complaining about BBC political bias since the days of Harold Wilson. And one guy suggests we don’t play certain songs at the Proms is unpatriotic? Fucks sake what world do you want to live in? Patriotic songs on a loop and swearing allegiance to the supreme leader no doubt would be your idea of a proper BBC.

The Bollox is coming from you, and your obvious dislike for anything showing
British patriotism is why you want this type of person there. It's crystal clear who the
supporters and detractors are, they reflect the public, as per the numerous recent
elections, and the subsequent results of them. It will limp on for a while, but sooner or
later, decriminalisation will ensue, and then it's goodnight Vienna, as millions more
will then sack it off.

 

[BobKowalski]

It's the proms, it's about tradition and music that is embedded into our culture. This is like saying that people who turn up to see a drill set by whatever gangster is in vogue and end up with Lindesfarne should just shut up and listen.
If the BBC is for everyone and everyone has a section then this numpty who criticised it isn't living up to the ethos of the BBC, surely you can see that Bob can't you?

Then criticise the opinion. Make counter arguments. The man is free to have his opinion. You don’t just shut the institution down because you dislike one man’s opinion. You guys rage against people shutting you down whilst raging at people and wanting to shut them down.

I despise QT on the BBC for having one MEP on the program every other week for years being that racist **** Farage but I don’t think destroying the BBC is the answer or a solution. You have one guy raising a point about the Proms and it’s destroy everything as a first reaction. It’s fucking unhinged and insane.

 

[BobKowalski]

The Bollox is coming from you, and your obvious dislike for anything showing
British patriotism is why you want this type of person there. It's crystal clear who the
supporters and detractors are, they reflect the public, as per the numerous recent
elections, and the subsequent results of them. It will limp on for a while, but sooner or
later, decriminalisation will ensue, and then it's goodnight Vienna, as millions more
will then sack it off.

The only obvious thing is you haven’t the first clue about patriotism. I value our culture and I value our Union. You value neither. You are no patriot.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

The Bollox is coming from you, and your obvious dislike for anything showing
British patriotism is why you want this type of person there. It's crystal clear who the
supporters and detractors are, they reflect the public, as per the numerous recent
elections, and the subsequent results of them. It will limp on for a while, but sooner or
later, decriminalisation will ensue, and then it's goodnight Vienna, as millions more
will then sack it off.

I will probably suit successive govts to keep this hovering as a threat over the beeb for a few years yet to bend them to their will.

 

[mexico1970]

Then criticise the opinion. Make counter arguments. The man is free to have his opinion. You don’t just shut the institution down because you dislike one man’s opinion. You guys rage against people shutting you down whilst raging at people and wanting to shut them down.

I despise QT on the BBC for having one MEP on the program every other week for years being that racist **** Farage but I don’t think destroying the BBC is the answer or a solution. You have one guy raising a point about the Proms and it’s destroy everything as a first reaction. It’s fucking unhinged and insane.

I don't want the institution shut down because of one mans opinion I want it shut down because of "It's opinion". I haven't got the platform to fight against what people like this say, in fact some would say (I being one of them) would say he's using a position he has gained through the use of public money to attack the public.

Sooner it's gone the better.

 

[BobKowalski]

I don't want it to be a public service provider, that's my point bud.

Which is a different argument but argue why we don’t need a public service broadcaster that is mandated to serve the public beyond the need for profit. I believe we do especially during times of crisis. Polling shows that the public turns to the BBC in times of crisis, as it has done during the pandemic. Removing important pillars that bind us as a country is contrary to the public and national interest which is why I am happy to fund a public service broadcaster.

 

[mexico1970]

Which is a different argument but argue why we don’t need a public service broadcaster that is mandated to serve the public beyond the need for profit. I believe we do especially during times of crisis. Polling shows that the public turns to the BBC in times of crisis, as it has done during the pandemic. Removing important pillars that bind us as a country is contrary to the public and national interest which is why I am happy to fund a public service broadcaster.

It stopped being a pillar of the community after Biddy blood Baxter left Blue Peter. Just a quick scan of the BBC news page is reminding me that it has nothing relevant on it that affects me past the knee jerk headlines. Again I am happy for you to continue to subscribe if you wish, but I want a quick death for it as you would for a poorly relative you had fond memories of until they started shouting at neighbours and eating the cutlery.