CAS judgement: UEFA ban overturned, City exonerated (report out p603)

Didsbury Dave said:
You lot getting your knickers in a twist about the odd shitty irrelevant pundit’s take on this is pretty funny.

We won. Much of the narrative since has been positive. It will get more positive when the full judgement is released. City have put Pep into bat nicely and there will be more leaks/releases through the right channels in time, I’m sure.

We as a club have behaved with dignity throughout and have the spoils.
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Its not really the odd one though is it? We celebrate a single positive news story from Martin Samuel but for every Samuel there are ten turds like Delaney. Everyone just assumes that Samuel has been paid by the club for his take on it and because everyone else in the media has a different view, Samuel and therefore City are talking rubbish.

It should have been made clear by the club on Monday, that if you want to write about this case and verdict, by all means do so but the content had better be similar to Martin Samuels and if it isn't, you can expect a call from our lawyers.

We may have some top-notch lawyers but even after all these years, it appears we have absolute amateurs in charge of our PR.
 
I can only assume that our owners do not believe the media campaign against us is going to fundamentally damage their long term investment if we keep winning on the pitch
 
I think the club did right to not say much, as we are still waiting for CAS details.

What if details come out that time-barred financial transfers were indeed more than questionable?
Media summary will be "guilty, time-barred, technicality, City has ruined football".

It would look even worse if we'd come out Monday with a mouthy statement.
So let's wait.

I have a feeling we will never leave this mess clean and acquitted. We are branded.

All we could do is explain our situation back then in detail, maybe admit mistakes but also put full light on the other players of the game that brought football in the situation it is today.
We are only a small part of the fuckin story.
 
OrigamiNinja said:
Its not really the odd one though is it? We celebrate a single positive news story from Martin Samuel but for every Samuel there are ten turds like Delaney. Everyone just assumes that Samuel has been paid by the club for his take on it and because everyone else in the media has a different view, Samuel and therefore City are talking rubbish.

It should have been made clear by the club on Monday, that if you want to write about this case and verdict, by all means do so but the content had better be similar to Martin Samuels and if it isn't, you can expect a call from our lawyers.

We may have some top-notch lawyers but even after all these years, it appears we have absolute amateurs in charge of our PR.
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All I’ve seen has been pretty much “exonerated” type coverage, but I don’t scour the internet looking for what rivals say. Klopp was the exception but you’d expect that from them. Let’s see how things pan out over the next couple of weeks.
 
bobom said:
It'll be interesting to see if/when the penny drops in some quarters that perhaps Uefa are the bad guys. I'm not holding my breath, but it's interesting to see how long the cognitive dissonance can be kept up.
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All carefully plotted with the chosen few and it's all gone tits up for them and they have no where to turn as they thought we were stuffed. Forget the biased idiots still drumming their vile spiel. Can you imagine the conversations and fault blaming going on behind closed doors at the moment with all those involved! !
 
St.Pauli support said:
I think the club did right to not say much, as we are still waiting for CAS details.

What if details come out that time-barred financial transfers were indeed more than questionable?
Media summary will be "guilty, time-barred, technicality, City has ruined football".

It would look even worse if we'd come out Monday with a mouthy statement.
So let's wait.

I have a feeling we will never leave this mess clean and acquitted. We are branded.

All we could do is explain our situation back then in detail, maybe admit mistakes but also put full light on the other players of the game that brought football in the situation it is today.
We are only a small part of the fuckin story.
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Disagree, Peps come out all guns blazing, his credibility would be at stake.
We are squeaky mate
 
stevemcgarry said:
I have to hold my hands up. I've worked in newspapers for almost 40 years now ... including working with the sports desks at The Sun, The Daily Star, The Expess and the Mirror among others, as well as all the football mags ... and never really subscribed to the idea that there was a deliberate, coordinated bias against City. It seemed to me that papers, traditionally, would just seize on whatever the big story was and pursue it, regardless of the personal loyalties of individual journos and editors. But the coverage of City and FPP, compounded by the reaction to the CAS ruling today, has been eye-opening. I don't know whether it is tribal, or hubris and a refusal to concede that they were wrong ... or more depressingly, just plain old racism and xenophobia ... but the vitriol and antipathy towards our club across swathes of UK print media is irrefutable. Hands held up.
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Thought this was worth a bump to be reread.
 
St.Pauli support said:
I think the club did right to not say much, as we are still waiting for CAS details.

What if details come out that time-barred financial transfers were indeed more than questionable?
Media summary will be "guilty, time-barred, technicality, City has ruined football".

It would look even worse if we'd come out Monday with a mouthy statement.
So let's wait.

I have a feeling we will never leave this mess clean and acquitted. We are branded.

All we could do is explain our situation back then in detail, maybe admit mistakes but also put full light on the other players of the game that brought football in the situation it is today.
We are only a small part of the fuckin story.
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they can say the hell they want, I’ll be shouting CAS judgement is we are innocent!
 
doobyedoobye said:
I can only assume that our owners do not believe the media campaign against us is going to fundamentally damage their long term investment if we keep winning on the pitch
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TBH the word damage has been used a lot by Pep, were only 3 days from the CAS verdict,let the dust settle,let the jurno's 'damage' us and the writ will be served once thats done all the others will crawl back under their rocks
 
doobyedoobye said:
I can only assume that our owners do not believe the media campaign against us is going to fundamentally damage their long term investment if we keep winning on the pitch
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Dont they say in Hollywood there is no such thing as bad publicity ?

We are being talked about daily.
 
domalino said:
Please don't tell me that it isn't important what the world thinks when we have a media thread that's 3000 pages long every season, people posting videos of every journalist/pundit who aggrieves them and 2 seperate threads for media coverage and opposition fan reactions.

An organised response would have had a statement that framed the decision the way City want it. The same way UEFA put all the focus on the time-bar. It would have had comments from people like Soriano, who commented on it previously, saying he was vindicated.

Or at the very least they could have put some sort of emphasis on the media waiting to hear the full award.

I'm not a PR expert, anymore than I'm a Formula 1 engineer but I can still recognise a car crash when I see one.

You will never recapture the narrative after this long anyway.
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Well said. For years people have said we should just igore the bile which has been spread. The biased attitudes towards City didn't happen overnight. Our reputation has been trashed and we need to be more proactive with the people doing it. It was pressure from the media (driven by our commercial rivals) which ended up with us being charged. The way we are reported and perceived is crucial to our reputation. Whatever the judgement says we should hold a media briefing and present our irrefutable proof and dismantle the fake media narrative line by line. We should communicate this directly to every single person on our fans' database, all our partners, all our, investors, and everyone else. Being on the backfoot for 10 years has got us nowhere.
 
Samuels sums it up..
"The fine was for refusing to comply with UEFA's initial investigation — the ban was for falsifying accounts. It's like being charged with murder, and also resisting arrest. A person could be found not guilty of murder, but guilty of resisting arrest."
 
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