COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[cleavers]

We have seen how the virus behaves in every location that has been impacted and some states in America are lagging behind others so are only just getting it.

That's not quite true, there is a clear correlation between the weather and the virus, especially in the US.

Whenever it's cold it spreads more easily. Why ? because people are indoors much more to keep warm, whenever it becomes hot, it spreads more easily, for exactly the same reason, people go indoors to keep cool.

It spread in the US northern states in late winter, and it's spreading in the more southern states in the heat of summer (same with much of the middle east, India etc, didn't spread much early on as temperatures were more temperate), it's also spreading again in Australia in their winter (similar in southern South America).

It wants people indoors, because that is hough it spreads easiest.

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

That's not quite true, there is a clear correlation between the weather and the virus, especially in the US.

Whenever it's cold it spreads more easily. Why ? because people are indoors much more to keep warm, whenever it becomes hot, it spreads more easily, for exactly the same reason, people go indoors to keep cool.

It spread in the US northern states in late winter, and it's spreading in the more southern states in the heat of summer (same with much of the middle east, India etc, didn't spread much early on as temperatures were more temperate), it's also spreading again in Australia in their winter (similar in southern South America).

It wants people indoors, because that is hough it spreads easiest.

But I assume if people stayed indoors and kept socially distanced etc then it might not spread as quickly. The weather we had in March and April at the beginning of lockdown when many people didn't act like twats didn't help us as it was very dry and people went out far more than if it pissed down everyday.

 

[Healdplace]

Not one for conspiracy thinking but starting to feel something is very wrong somewhere.

THIS is not a repeat from two days ago.

Its just now from the PHE on Twitter!

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Owing to technical difficulties with data processing, the England and UK cases and tests data is not expected to be updated today.

 

[cleavers]

That would be because he is in charge of the fucking country, not a random rugby supporter, and a pandemic requires a societal response not an individual one.

We didn't have a pandemic when that rugby match took place (Mar 7th), so if you put aside your political agenda for a minute, and look at the actual facts, there was no reason for him to avoid going to the rugby, just like the other 79,999 rugby fans, or us visiting wembley the week before.

 

[Healdplace]

Perhaps the plan is to book Mystic Meg to strategise how to track and trace. Will be as helpful as a system that seemingly can no longer add up numbers.

 

[grunge]

Coronavirus: Nearly 300 staff test positive for COVID-19 at factory that makes sandwiches for M&S

Some 79 workers tested positive through NHS tests while 213 positive results came back from Greencore's private testing.

news.sky.com

Nearly 300 cases in 1 factrory in Northampton.

 

[cleavers]

But I assume if people stayed indoors and kept socially distanced etc then it might not spread as quickly. The weather we had in March and April at the beginning of lockdown when many people didn't act like twats didn't help us as it was very dry and people went out far more than if it pissed down everyday.

Try social distancing on the Tube in early March going to work.

I'd argue the weather did help us, remember much of the country was suffering from floods in early March, so we were indoors a lot, and our lockdown didn't start until Mar 16th, by then much of the damage (in regards deaths in particular) was already done, and the vastly improved weather meant many were social distancing outside, and lockdown meant we only really mixed with those in our own households anyway where we were pretty much confined, if we didn't go out.

 

[cleavers]

Coronavirus: Nearly 300 staff test positive for COVID-19 at factory that makes sandwiches for M&S

Some 79 workers tested positive through NHS tests while 213 positive results came back from Greencore's private testing.

news.sky.com

Nearly 300 cases in 1 factrory in Northampton.

I wonder how many of those sandwiches, and sandwich packets, have infection on them by the time they are consumed, doesn't really bare thinking about.

 

[Healdplace]

You can imagine the reaction to this latest farce on social media. Utter contempt and belief the country is being taken as mugs.

How on Earth are they going to persuade the public to act sensibly if half of them think you are incapable of totting up numbers that are needed to track outbreaks? And the other half that you can but don't want you to know.

 

[grunge]

I wonder how many of those sandwiches, and sandwich packets, have infection on them by the time they are consumed, doesn't really bare thinking about.

refrigerated/frozen goods is being blamed for New Zelands outbreak.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Went to Go Ape with the little one today, absolutely zero chance of social distancing properly, at least we are outside, but it is what it is now, Im afraid life has to carry on as normal otherwise we will end up in a depression unseen in our times, yes worse than the 1930s, at least back then people were still fairly civilised, not now.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Coronavirus: Nearly 300 staff test positive for COVID-19 at factory that makes sandwiches for M&S

Some 79 workers tested positive through NHS tests while 213 positive results came back from Greencore's private testing.

news.sky.com

Nearly 300 cases in 1 factrory in Northampton.

that’s awful. But hey lets do an experiment

of that 300 who have got it wouldn’t it be good to get some data , how many

had no symptoms

had a cold flu like symptoms and a week off work

were so ill they had to go to hospital for treatment

intensive care

death

Be good to know

 

[BlueAnorak]

At least the NHS weren't overwhelmed in April ;-)

Though the reality is they were, and couldn't deal with it all, so many of the NHS staff were also overwhelmed, and a good many died as a result.

The reality is that we (as a country) had no idea what we were really dealing with, and we had no idea how to treat it.

We were then hit by the worst scenario of people travelling to the worst areas in our own half term holidays, just as other countries were getting to their peak of local transmission.

So you can blame government all you like, but at the end of the day we were in a very shit position, sure there were things we could have done better (mainly in hindsight - and there still are even today), but we were pretty much fucked by the fact that many people in the southeast/london area had half term skiing breaks or holidays to spain, just as it was running amok, they all came home and went about their normal lives packing trains and tubes not knowing they were transmitting the virus, a lot of those travel for work, so took it to all corners of the country, and there it spread further.

So many things were wrong from the off.
Crap pandemic plan, arrogance as to far eastern measures (especially face masks), a deporable response from PHE - especially on testing and a reluctance of the government to change the process or go against advice from SAGE (aka the comedy club).

 

[grunge]

that’s awful. But hey lets do an experiment

of that 300 who have got it wouldn’t it be good to get some data , how many

had no symptoms

had a cold flu like symptoms and a week off work

were so ill they had to go to hospital for treatment

intensive care

death

Be good to know

You mean like the stats that have been collected for the last 8 months around the globe?

 

[Manc Born & Bred]

You can imagine the reaction to this latest farce on social media. Utter contempt and belief the country is being taken as mugs.

How on Earth are they going to persuade the public to act sensibly if half of them think you are incapable of totting up numbers that are needed to track outbreaks? And the other half that you can but don't want you to know.

I suspect it is like the reaction on here when we aren't beating Lyon by five goals after half an hour. One reason to avoid social media...

 

[cleavers]

that’s awful. But hey lets do an experiment

of that 300 who have got it wouldn’t it be good to get some data , how many

had no symptoms

had a cold flu like symptoms and a week off work

were so ill they had to go to hospital for treatment

intensive care

death

Be good to know

It would be good, in fact this is the sort of data you'd hope someone is collating somewhere.

 

[BlueAnorak]

we had time advantage to see and prepare for what was coming,we went our own way ,i was screaming about both and for the stopping of mass gatherings,no hindsight required,we literally had the WHO and Ita!y screaming at us to change course,we didnt

We had a Pandemic plan. It turned out to be shit.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

You mean like the stats that have been collected for the last 8 months around the globe?

well I am not sure they have been great. These are working age people a defined number in the uk , it would be a perfect experiment to monitor how the virus behaves in this group, now that our treatments have improved..
I think it would be a good experiment to see and so people can understand just how serious this disease still is or....

 

[Tim of the Oak]

We didn't have a pandemic when that rugby match took place (Mar 7th), so if you put aside your political agenda for a minute, and look at the actual facts, there was no reason for him to avoid going to the rugby, just like the other 79,999 rugby fans, or us visiting wembley the week before.

Boris has been useless but SAGE advised COBRA that there was very little additional risk to people catching the virus from attending major sporting events. Some of the scientists haven’t distinguished themselves either.

 

[Healdplace]

I suspect it is like the reaction on here when we aren't beating Lyon by five goals after half an hour. One reason to avoid social media...

I do, but its where the government choose to reveal these things sadly. Otherwise you just wait all night until they bother to tell you on their dashboard what is/or rather isn't happening.