Lyon CL QF Post-Match Thread

OK i get that BUT why were MCFC more scared of Lyon than Lyon were scared of MCFC, and i dont mean that in a big headed way. City should of had more confident of their ability and try to force our style of play on them. By City changing style it gave Lyon the confidence oh look City are worried about us !
You clearly don't get that at all as you've just repeated the same thing I disagreed with the first time you said it. The change to three at the back was not because we were scared, it was because we needed 3 CB's to allow us to play out from the back as Lyon play with two strikers.

Two strikers vs two CB's = no numerical advantage to keep possession.
 
This is exactly how last night's team should have lined up. The three CB's was a necessity due to Lyon's two strikers, as it gives us a stable platform to build our attacks. However the pace and intensity would have been dramatically improved by the player selection and that's my only criticism of Pep last night. I understand exactly what he was trying to do but it didn't work and it's clear to see why with the benefit of hindsight, although most saw what was coming with the line up.
ctid, the last sentence raises an interesting point. Many posters were alarmed at the line up, yet Pep had full confidence in it. I wonder why he done this? He must have known that formation required a certain type of player/players yet selected a very iffy team. If it was a gamble, the signs were there early on it wasn't working yet he continued with it. I just can't tally up the formation and selection.
 
yet City were the 1st team to have 5 players score double figures in premier league history !

Im not saying we have a problem with scoring goals , im saying we are missing a Goretzka a powerhouse who can dominate the midfield.100 points season we didnt concede alot due to having a enforcer in midfield fernandinho was everywhere aggresive and won everything, we are missing that our defence would be better if they had better protection this season.
 
I think if he really wanted to go more secure he should have started Fernandinho and rodri screening the defence.

And that leaves Gundogan out and Bernardo or D. silva to start maybe bit deeper to pick up the ball.

This 3 man defence with gundo and Rodri was made just too easy to Lyon to block us out and we hardly attacked them until we started to push on around 60 minutes.

I think Lyon coach could not belive his luck when he sees the replay of the game that we decided not to really put them under pressure for an hour. Not forcing them to make saves, not forcing them to make errors.

Against Real we went an tried to press Varane made a mistakes.

Vs Lyon we were happy to pass it around without creating much, why it needed 60 minutes vs Arsenal and Lyon for us too start taking it seriously.
 
We've all seen Aguero miss easier chances, the standout being against Chelsea (I think) from 2 yards with a completely open goal after a Bernardo cross in front of the South Stand. Thankfully he rectified it a few minutes later from 25 yards but to suggest the misses don't happen is just bollocks.
Aguero 's finishing is apaling at times a strange thing to say for our record goalscorer, but he does miss bucketfuls of chances every season.
 
I am surprised at all the folk criticising the team selection and comparing it to a TWO LEGGED FIXTURE WITH RM - it ain't the same- you cannot compare the two so each requires a different tactical approach - take the chances you win it is quite simple- tactics were working fine second half - add in the shite refereeing and VAR and you have the perfect 'loss'.
 
ctid, the last sentence raises an interesting point. Many posters were alarmed at the line up, yet Pep had full confidence in it. I wonder why he done this? He must have known that formation required a certain type of player/players yet selected a very iffy team. If it was a gamble, the signs were there early on it wasn't working yet he continued with it. I just can't tally up the formation and selection.
I have been very consistent this season in saying I think our biggest problem has been a lack of pace and natural width, caused by Sane's injury and subsequent departure.

Personally I think Pep knows the problem, hence why Torres was our first signing.

However Pep's hands have been tied this season. The lack of pace and natural width have meant we have had no option but to play centrally more frequently, which teams have realised and exploited by packing central areas and catching us in possession, which has lead to numerous goals conceded on the break. To try and minimise that vulnerability Pep has gone for technical superiority in midfield, which has resulted in some teams physically dismantling us and giving us a bit of a slap.

People blame the defence and CB's in particular but they're being left exposed by a drive for technical superiority rather than a technical/physical balance in midfield. Gundogan, Rodri and Silva (Fernandinho, Mahrez, Mendy and Aguero all exaggerate the problems too) are all limited physically and cause our defence untold problems when played together.

A few new signings to give us the pace and width back will fix the defensive problems as well, as teams won't be able to defend narrow and deep against us. They won't be winning the ball in central areas as frequently meaning they won't have as many counter attacks, so our defence will be less exposed as a result.
 
According to Jesus, he doesn't see himself as a central forward, but prefers to play on the left. Maybe there lies the problem.
Not good enough out wide and the same as a striker, brings incredible energy into the game, amazing 1st line of defence but a striker's job is to score and create chances and to me he is not good enough.
 
Aguero 's finishing is apaling at times a strange thing to say for our record goalscorer, but he does miss bucketfuls of chances every season.
Every striker does, even Messi who is the best natural finisher the world has ever seen in my opinion. That's why I don't understand the criticism of Jesus, he's judged by a lie that world class strikers don't ever miss chances.
 
Sterling's miss at Burnley from a yard out was the worst miss I thought I would ever see in my lifetime but tonight he's outdone himself. Easier to score doesn't do it justice. Just roll it in, don't aim to fire it in via the underside of the crossbar.
Think we all know he needs 65 chances to score 30 goals
 
Every striker does, even Messi who is the best natural finisher the world has ever seen in my opinion. That's why I don't understand the criticism of Jesus, he's judged by a lie that world class strikers don't ever miss chances.
But they score the chances in the big matches,when it matters, hence why Aguero is a legend.

Londonski 50 plus goals this season, incredible performance.
 
I know its only a game of football etc but im struggling to get over last night. Genius that Pep is when he gets it wrong its spectacular.

what niggles me though Is ive never felt he has the fans at heart. When we lost to united and couldve won the league i felt he didnt grasp what that wouldve meant to the fans.
Its just so disappointing.

pep is 10 times the manager but bobby will always be the man
 
I am surprised at all the folk criticising the team selection and comparing it to a TWO LEGGED FIXTURE WITH RM - it ain't the same- you cannot compare the two so each requires a different tactical approach - take the chances you win it is quite simple- tactics were working fine second half - add in the shite refereeing and VAR and you have the perfect 'loss'.

Given the players at his disposal that was up their with the worst team selection and tactics I’ve ever seen by a City manager. It was genuinely that bad and baffling. This was hardly an insight view everybody was saying it an hour before kick off. He basically wasted a full half of a one legged game after a full weeks rest by his appalling tactics that completely handed the Initiative to a fairly average side.
 

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