Bernardo Silva has been crap last season but he is still a fantastic player! Dont judge a player based off one bad season!
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Kalidou Koulibaly
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Bernardo Silva has been crap last season but he is still a fantastic player! Dont judge a player based off one bad season!
mosssideblue
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I reached those conclusions from reading your posts. Perhaps if you go back and re read them, you will see whyI have no clue how you come to these conclusions mate. This is the second time I'm telling this directly to you, I don't think Koulibaly will be a huge upgrade on Stones. I think he'll be a small short term upgrade but I'm not convinced he'll be a long term solution. If we buy him for 70m this season and he isn't a disaster we won't buy another big name centre back for at least a couple of seasons, and I fear that might hurt us more.
Akpowell
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The few games I watched he's been crap and people that watch him every week also said he had a bad season.
Well a change will do him good then as they say
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bumbleblue
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I am not celebrating til buttys are needed for those off to Barton Aerodrome and for the flight tracking to begin!
Fair enough.Bernardo Silva has been crap last season but he is still a fantastic player! Dont judge a player based off one bad season!
Neville Kneville
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If you are Arse, Rags, Scousers etc, expecting to knock the ball over our pathetic offside trap, or down the channel, or just whack it down the middle hopefully & have your striker get to the ball first, you look at our options with Zinchenko on one side next to Otamendi, Stones or Garcia or these days even Laporte, imagine how pleased you are to see us stood in that line, so now Walker can't drop back & cover either without fucking up the offside trap ? Christmas time !
Then picture Walker, Koulibaly, Aké & a proper left back, holding offside til you kick it then dropping & sprinting to cover it.
No so easy now, is it , in fact, is it even a tactic anymore ?
Maybe it won't fix it, but the logic is simple & sensible, surely ?
Then picture Walker, Koulibaly, Aké & a proper left back, holding offside til you kick it then dropping & sprinting to cover it.
No so easy now, is it , in fact, is it even a tactic anymore ?
Maybe it won't fix it, but the logic is simple & sensible, surely ?
Then you're twisting my words since I've never said anything close to Stones being much better than KK.I reached those conclusions from reading your posts. Perhaps if you go back and re read them, you will see why
Koulibaly hasn't kicked a ball for us yet.
So what?
citytill1die84
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If you are Arse, Rags, Scousers etc, expecting to knock the ball over our pathetic offside trap, or down the channel, or just whack it down the middle hopefully & have your striker get to the ball first, you look at our options with Zinchenko on one side next to Otamendi, Stones or Garcia or these days even Laporte, imagine how pleased you are to see us stood in that line, so now Walker can't drop back & cover either without fucking up the offside trap ? Christmas time !
Then picture Walker, Koulibaly, Laporte & a proper left back, holding offside til you kick it then dropping & sprinting to cover it.
No so easy now, is it , in fact, is it even a tactic anymore ?
Maybe it won't fix it, but the logic is simple & sensible, surely ?
Fixed it :) could be games tho where we see either Laporte or Ake at LB and the other as the LCB.
Great time hopefully :)
So what?
I'm not judging his ability until he does play for us (if he signs). Although I'm not against it I'm not particularly excited about the signing either and don't have a heavily biased opinion.
That's simply not true either, you have no idea who will emerge as one of the better CB's over the course of the next 12 months. That's why clubs have scouting systems (or in Liverpool's case have access to other people's scouting systems). Last summer no one had even heard of Erling Haaland, it was all João Felix or whoever, suddenly Haaland is the best thing since sliced bread and the one we have to sign up front for example.And unproven players, who will cost similar or more money, if they are any good.
There is no 'right' or cheap way to fix this. We just have to do what we can.
Aké was the bargain, signed. Now we'll have to pay up, for an older proven player or a younger unproven player or sign a JFE to bodge with.
mosssideblue
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Oh yes you have, and when asked to qualify, you have been scrambling with ridiculous claims.Then you're twisting my words since I've never said anything close to Stones being much better than KK.
Kokonut1307
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If you are Arse, Rags, Scousers etc, expecting to knock the ball over our pathetic offside trap, or down the channel, or just whack it down the middle hopefully & have your striker get to the ball first, you look at our options with Zinchenko on one side next to Otamendi, Stones or Garcia or these days even Laporte, imagine how pleased you are to see us stood in that line, so now Walker can't drop back & cover either without fucking up the offside trap ? Christmas time !
Then picture Walker, Koulibaly, Aké & a proper left back, holding offside til you kick it then dropping & sprinting to cover it.
No so easy now, is it , in fact, is it even a tactic anymore ?
Maybe it won't fix it, but the logic is simple & sensible, surely ?
You don’t need quick players to make the offside trap work. Walker, our quickest player, tends to be the one to play them onside most of the time. Against Lyon they did it unwell but Walker has close to zero awareness of when someone is offside. We need quick players because we can’t rely on them to be competent enough to hold a line properly. Other teams manage it despite being relatively slow.
No one can guarantee anything and I'm not a scout. I see as much football as the average man, so my judgement is based on what I see. However my limited viewing experience doesn't mean that those players don't exist. Like I said to another poster, who considered the lad Haaland last summer, no one but suddenly 90% of posters say he's the next must have striker.Very true but nothing guarantees success.
Upamecano, if he isn't already Bayern bound and/or unavailable, will have to learn a new role in a new system in a new country, whereas Koulibaly's experience, including under Sarri, might help him settle in relatively quickly.
Which are the CBs out there who would guarantee success to a bigger extent than Koulibaly and are also available?
It's not a major reason to worry but we are financially hamstrung by FFP to some degree, so being able to recover a proportion, if not all, the money on any signing is just sensible forward planning. You wouldn't buy a car without considering the depreciation costs, as well as the other associated costs. It's just common sense.Every signing is a risk, we can’t base who we buy on whether we can sell them if they’re shit.
We’re no longer financially hamstrung so no major reasons to worry.
1-0 to the Arsenal team is the perfect example, although even those twats may have struggled with the current bollocks rules.You don’t need quick players to make the offside trap work. Walker, our quickest player, tends to be the one to play them onside most of the time. Against Lyon they did it unwell but Walker has close to zero awareness of when someone is offside. We need quick players because we can’t rely on them to be competent enough to hold a line properly. Other teams manage it despite being relatively slow.
And it must surely be a subconscious worry, if you want to try a trick or bit of skill, but if you get tackled, the ball is going to be hoofed down the pitch & might end up in our net?
Definitey. We see it as fans, the players playing will feel it much more.
Imagine you’re De Bruyne, City is dominating, you’re putting in countless through balls and crosses and finally Agüero scores, then 5 minutes later, the team loses the ball, the opposition counter and score with their first shot in the game, 1-1. It’s happened so many times. The attacking players must be livid especially.