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Citizen in Pakistan said:
What's the chances of a scandal coming out and harming Biden in the run in? It just feels as if trump might have a one or two dirty tricks up his sleeve. (I'm a neutral and don't care who wins)
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If he had anything credible he would not be banging on about #ObambaGate, 'spying', consiparcies about vaccines being held back etc.

Donald Trump(Individual 1) is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Michael Cohen case. There is not one scandal, not one, that Trump could level at Biden which could possibly be worse than anything Trump has done

Although, by Trump banging on about this rubbish he is hoping that voters won't turn out as "all politicians are as bad as each other"
 
Blue Hefner said:
If he had anything credible he would not be banging on about #ObambaGate, 'spying', consiparcies about vaccines being held back etc.

Donald Trump(Individual 1) is an unindicted co-conspirator in the Michael Cohen case. There is not one scandal, not one, that Trump could level at Biden which could possibly be worse than anything Trump has done

Although, by Trump banging on about this rubbish he is hoping that voters won't turn out as "all politicians are as bad as each other"
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The problem is that the severity of the scandal isn't the issue. Just that there is a potential scandal is enough to put doubt in voters minds. There was no substance in the Benghazi investigation, and the e-mail scandal was just stupidity, not criminality, certainly not at the scale of anything Trump and his family have been up to, yet potential Clinton voters sh*t themselves and the rest is history.

On the plus side, at least people know the consequences of not voting this time round. Trump is no longer an unknown quantity and if enough people decide that literally ANYONE is better than Trump, then (voter suppression and foreign interference aside) he's gone in January.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
In a US election, it’s not just numbers, it’s where they got the votes.

As “Vox” states:
It is true that if all these Stein voters had gone to Clinton, she would have won these three states and, as a result, won the election.

However, of more concern, and where Democrats are focusing greater attention...and Trump is focusing his voter suppression... is that more than 41 percent* of eligible voters didn’t vote in 2016!

*Of the 230,931,921 eligible voters, only 136,753,936 actually voted for President.
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I understand that but, putting aside the fact there isn't a world where all Stein voters vote for Clinton (backed up by exitpolling with artificially limited choices), Johnson got 3.5%/3.6%/2.4% of the vote in those 3 states compared to Stein's 1%/1%/0.8%
The media and blue checkmarks concentrate on Stein only because Clinton lost. Trump has made people irrational, more irrational than even he is.
 
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Usually Presidential elections get an October surprise. An event or scandal that could tilt the election one way or another.

If there's one this year it'll have to (please pardon the pun) trump everything that's gone in in the last 3 and a half years.
 
ChicagoBlue said:
As someone living in Pakistan, or anywhere in the world, you should care. American influence in the region, and across the globe, can go either way.

An untethered, nothing to lose, no more elections to win, Trump should scare the living shit out of everyone!

Any know how rich people get much much richer? Betting on one side of a crisis!
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People in that region have more to fear from a return to the Obama/Biden/Clinton foreign policy than Trump
 
Silva_Spell said:
People in that region have more to fear from a return to the Obama/Biden/Clinton foreign policy than Trump
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I'm no expert in the region so I'm not going to die on this hill but any US President cozying up to Putin, Mohammed bin Salman, Eurdogen should be a concern for the region. Never mind the bullshit he pulled with Iran

Trump would go to war tommorrow if he thought there were a few votes in it.
 
Silva_Spell said:
People in that region have more to fear from a return to the Obama/Biden/Clinton foreign policy than Trump
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You sure about that?

At least Obama/Biden/Clinton foreign policy was based on geopolitical decisions and not profit, criminality and favours for the ex KGB officer who has allegedly has pictures of prostitutes p*ssing on Trump (and no doubt other 'leverage').
 
Blue Hefner said:
I'm no expert in the region so I'm not going to die on this hill but any US President cozying up to Putin, Mohammed bin Salman, Eurdogen should be a concern for the region. Never mind the bullshit he pulled with Iran

Trump would go to war tommorrow if he thought there were a few votes in it.
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The West has always cozied up to Saudi. With Russia you have to look beyond the rhetoric and tweets, policy wise his admin has been more strong on Russia than some of his predecessors.
Essentially abandoning the Kurds is his one black mark in terms of foreign policy, and, imo, his whole presidency.
 
Silva_Spell said:
The West has always cozied up to Saudi. With Russia you have to look beyond the rhetoric and tweets, policy wise his admin has been more strong on Russia than some of his predecessors.
Essentially abandoning the Kurds is his one black mark in terms of foreign policy, and, imo, his whole presidency.
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And him happily requesting and accepting election inteferecne. Along with no notes taken from various meeting and phone calls whislt siding with Putin over his own intelligence community?

Then moving on to North Korea and legitimising a murderer who happyily has his people living in concertration camps.

Then sedning the National Guard in to invade his own cities! Was that before or after he aksed for Ukraines help in the upcoming election by withholding 'javelins' until they started a phony investigation into Hunter Biden?

I could go on but you get the idea.

Genuine question, would Trump get your vote?
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
You sure about that?

At least Obama/Biden/Clinton foreign policy was based on geopolitical decisions and not profit, criminality and favours for the ex KGB officer who has allegedly has pictures of prostitutes p*ssing on Trump (and no doubt other 'leverage').
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Let's pretend that that's true, we should ask the human beings being bought and sold in Libya if it eases their suffering.
 
Silva_Spell said:
The West has always cozied up to Saudi. With Russia you have to look beyond the rhetoric and tweets, policy wise his admin has been more strong on Russia than some of his predecessors.
Essentially abandoning the Kurds is his one black mark in terms of foreign policy, and, imo, his whole presidency.
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Yeah. He tried to get Russia into the G8 after it was known they were paying the Taliban to kill Americans. Really tough.

As for his “only black mark”, that should be enough on its own to make even his biggest fans realise he should be nowhere near the Presidency, but they are so enamoured with him they’re prepared to overlook his abandonment of thousands of allies to torture and death because he’s “owning the libs”.

Nutters the lot of them.
 
Blue Hefner said:
And him happily requesting and accepting election inteferecne. Along with no notes taken from various meeting and phone calls whislt siding with Putin over his own intelligence community?

Then moving on to North Korea and legitimising a murderer who happyily has his people living in concertration camps.

Then sedning the National Guard in to invade his own cities! Was that before or after he aksed for Ukraines help in the upcoming election by withholding 'javelins' until they started a phony investigation into Hunter Biden?

I could go on but you get the idea.

Genuine question, would Trump get your vote?
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Trump talking against the intelligence community is siding with one thing and one thing only - Trump's fragile ego

Is talking to enemies bad now?

National Guard stuff is a load of bollocks, not that it has anything to do with foreign policy or the region we're talking about.


No because I wouldn't want to support anti-reason which Trump is a symbol of.
And I would never vote for any Democrat again until they stopped mainstreaming the anti-american, anti-reason 'Critical Race theory' cult and other lawless people
 
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