Eric Garcia to Barcelona

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ctid1894 said:
He was the only one fighting to get back for Lyon's first goal, if I remember correctly.
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He was the nearest one to it, after helping cause it by playing offside, whilst looking at the back of his fullback. Then was in perfect position to rescue the 2nd, but instead charged forward to play offside, in his own half.

I suppose both were a kind of game reading genius where he saw things others don't see.

Even if Garcia ends up as the greatest cb of all time, he has no right to be snywhere near our team on merit & imo is there because of his Barca background & his agent.

I hope he fucks off back there soon as.
 
ctid1894 said:
Why is Garcia any different to Sane? I remember you defending Sane quite vehemently, so I'm quite surprised by your stance on Garcia. Unless I've missed something, I don't understand how your thoughts have changed.

Garcia is under contract, he's happy to fulfil his contractual obligations. At that stage he's done what we signed him to do and if he wants to walk away at that stage, he's free to do so (tribunal aside).

Like I said selling him would be the best option for City but if like Sane, Garcia has his heart set on returning to his home, in this case Barcelona, then that's where he'll end up. You can't force the lad to leave and you can't force Barcelona to stump up the transfer fee we want, Garcia holds all the cards unfortunately.
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Sane was older, had won a lot and contributed to our best season ever , we sold him so he didnt go for free , at no time did he say i have told city no but i hope to stay here and thus go on a free
 
Neville Kneville said:
He was the nearest one to it, after helping cause it by playing offside, whilst looking at the back of his fullback. Then was in perfect position to rescue the 2nd, but instead charged forward to play offside, in his own half.

I suppose both were a kind of game reading genius where he saw things others don't see.

Even if Garcia ends up as the greatest cb of all time, he has no right to be snywhere near our team on merit & imo is there because of his Barca background & his agent.

I hope he fucks off back there soon as.
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Again your opinion, I disagree. Personally I think he earned his place in the starting line-up against Lyon, as the other options at CB were Stones and Otamendi. With the benefits of hindsight, we would have just gone with our usual 433 with Fernandinho and Laporte at the back, before you bemoan that point too.
 
kaz7 said:
Sane was older, had won a lot and contributed to our best season ever , we sold him so he didnt go for free , at no time did he say i have told city no but i hope to stay here and thus go on a free
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To be fair Garcia hasn't said he hopes to go on a free, certainly not that I've seen anyway. He's said he's happy to fulfil his contractual obligations by staying for another year, as well as informing the club that he will not sign a new deal. If Barcelona had the money, I don't think he'd necessarily stay out of spite just to go on a free. I think you've taken what he said entirely out of context, unless like I said you've seen a quote which I missed.
 
ctid1894 said:
Again your opinion, I disagree. Personally I think he earned his place in the starting line-up against Lyon, as the other options at CB were Stones and Otamendi. With the benefits of hindsight, we would have just gone with our usual 433 with Fernandinho and Laporte at the back, before you bemoan that point too.
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For all the valid criticism of Stones & Otamendi, both suffering from a dose of the shits, are better at defending than Garcia, on the ground & in the air. But Pep decided not to play them for a month in advance. Fern is past it, but still better than Garcia, but he barely played either.

He picked out a player, to pass the ball first, defend 2nd. Brought up the 'Barca way' & prime for an arse fucking by Bayern Munich.

Luckily he didn't get the chance.
 
kaz7 said:
He has a lot to learn, he is young , he should bear that all in mind before feeling entitled to getting his own way and cost us a fucking fortune
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He should actually look like a really brilliant cb, who is a bit raw.

Not look like a slow midfield player, who isn't great at defending, learning how to do it in the Champions League.
 
Neville Kneville said:
For all the valid criticism of Stones & Otamendi, both suffering from a dose of the shits, are better at defending than Garcia, on the ground & in the air. But Pep decided not to play them for a month in advance. Fern is past it, but still better than Garcia, but he barely played either.

He picked out a player, to pass the ball first, defend 2nd. Brought up the 'Barca way' & prime for an arse fucking by Bayern Munich.

Luckily he didn't get the chance.
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Possession is the best form of defence, a large proportion of the goals we've conceded have come from losing possession in dangerous central areas. Now personally I think there's better ways to mitigate that issue than playing Garcia and Gundogan but there's certainly logic behind Pep's tactical decisions to play the more technically gifted players in the current predicament. Whether you agree or not, is all about opinion, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
ctid1894 said:
Possession is the best form of defence, a large proportion of the goals we've conceded have come from losing possession in dangerous central areas. Now personally I think there's better ways to mitigate that issue than playing Garcia and Gundogan but there's certainly logic behind Pep's tactical decisions to play the more technically gifted players in the current predicament. Whether you agree or not, is all about opinion, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
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If it worked it would be great.

Unfortunately it doesn't.

It's just a question of whether we still win, by scoring more & giving away easy chances, or whether they score theirs & block ours.
 
kaz7 said:
He has a lot to learn, he is young , he should bear that all in mind before feeling entitled to getting his own way and cost us a fucking fortune
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Entitled because he honors his contract, doesn’t sulk or pressure for his exit? He is certainly entitled to make his own decisions regarding his career, like all players

Bought virtually for free and stand to profit at least €10m and yet you claim he cost you/City a fortune?

As I said before, you see what you want to
 
How can he expect to be further developed here if he is leaving, especially at the expense of others. He didn't need to say anything, unless of course he's not as upstanding as some would be lead to believe...
 
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