It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[OrigamiNinja]

What we urgently need is an orthodox right-sided central defender - Koulibaly is a right-footer who consistently plays on the left.

£70m plus for another suck it and see is a terrible strategy - it was the same last summer going after Maguire who also plays on the left.

Thank fuck we didn't pay that either.

It's not rocket science - sign players for the positions they already play and we need.

With this in mind, how do you feel about us spending £40m on Ake, if it now means we don't have the funds to address our clear weakness at RCB?

 

[Marvin]

Just because Denayer hasn done OK at Lyon doesn't mean he'd do well here. He had limited chances at City. I suggest that's because he didn't impress. He's slow and lacking in quality.

Central defence and defensive midfield are the problem areas for me. I think Rodri is OK but slow. If we brought Koulibaly in he'd probably be OK, but a general lack of pace in the central areas of our side is a problem when we are a side that commits so much to attack and can be caught on the counter-attack.

 

[Marvin]

What we urgently need is an orthodox right-sided central defender - Koulibaly is a right-footer who consistently plays on the left.

£70m plus for another suck it and see is a terrible strategy - it was the same last summer going after Maguire who also plays on the left.

Thank fuck we didn't pay that either.

It's not rocket science - sign players for the positions they already play and we need.

What else is a transfer but suck it and see? You have to back your judgement. Koulibaly is above the level of Maguire.

 

[Keeper!]

What else is a transfer but suck it and see? You have to back your judgement. Koulibaly is above the level of Maguire.

He may not be in the premier league, Serie A is very different.

 

[blueparrot]

With this in mind, how do you feel about us spending £40m on Ake, if it now means we don't have the funds to address our clear weakness at RCB?

Nothing to suggest we don't have the funds.

 

[Gumzy97]

Need a CDM who is mobile, Kante is apparently available for 60 mil

 

[Tugay One Cup]

Would you rather eat that fudge cake in the fridge, even though it's close to its use-by date or would you continue munching on the turd you've been nibbling on for years in the hope that you'll get to a chocolate centre?

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

What?...

Mate, nothing in the world suggests that. He had one good season out of the four years he has been here. One. He racked up mistakes over the years and he never seem to learn from them either. He has a weak mentality, he doesn’t look well, there’s no fighting in him.

Stones is 26 years old and you have guys like Upamecano and De Ligt who’s 4-6 years younger and already proved to be better. We’re waiting for something that will never happen. You just don’t turn 26 overnight and suddenly become a master of reading the game, add physicality to your game and become more aware defensively.
This is probably as good as it gets and it seems it’s not enough for Pep.

We know City wanted to extend with Eric Garcia. We know City are after Koulibaly, and we’ve just signed Aké.
That gives us 2 rightsided and 2 leftsided CBs with Laporte included here.

We also know 35-year old CDM Fernandinho and a 19-year old Garcia comes ahead of Stones in the pecking order. If Stones had any signs of becoming world class and shown glimpses of it, then these two guys would not start ahead of a fit Stones, and we’d have a ton of clubs after him, which we don’t.

There’s nothing world class about John Stones.

What have Upamecano or De Ligt proved or won more to be considered better? They are potential still at this stage. Stones was still carrying a muscle issue towards the end of the restart, hence why he was on the bench and not starting.

If Stones was a free transfer this summer you would have a queue of elite clubs rocking up, even now. His wages are a huge factor.

I'd argue his first two seasons under Pep were excellent until he fractured his cheekbone playing for England.

 

[TheThirdDeano]

i like stones I still reckon he can be our future captain.

just needs to get back his Mojo and instead of looking for the next shiny toy we should be helping him recover

 

[RayCTID]

Would you rather eat that fudge cake in the fridge, even though it's close to its use-by date or would you continue munching on the turd you've been nibbling on for years in the hope that you'll get to a chocolate centre?

You go for a fresher cake

 

[pavelsrnicek]

Can we get whoever is in charge of recruitment for the Women’s team to take over the rest of the club? So far the women’s team have signed 2 World Cup winning US stars and 2 English stars of the Champions League winning Lyon team.

 

[Carlos- the- jackal]

Need a CDM who is mobile, Kante is apparently available for 60 mil

Douglas Luiz, i just don’t understand why we haven’t got him back, we wanted him but couldn’t get a work permit,he goes to Villa gets a seasons experience in the premier league and impresses, it’s a no brainer for me.

 

[CITYROBBO]

What we urgently need is an orthodox right-sided central defender - Koulibaly is a right-footer who consistently plays on the left.

£70m plus for another suck it and see is a terrible strategy - it was the same last summer going after Maguire who also plays on the left.

Thank fuck we didn't pay that either.

It's not rocket science - sign players for the positions they already play and we need.

Kalidou Koulibaly is a top quality CB who can adapt perfectly. i'm not sure you realise how good he is,?. Don't compare Maguire to him don't be silly Tolmie. You are comparing Stones to Laporte which again is laughable. Stones has been a massive flop and complete waste of money at city.
Its not rocket science mate lets sign Quality players not some average crap like Stones and Denayer. Anyway keep up the good work as an ITK ;);)

 

[Neville Kneville]

In hindsight, we fucked up the minute we paid £50m for him and when we gave Otamendi an extension until 2022.

I never wanted Stones but I think he's been a good member of our squad apart from last season. Otamendi should have been a 1-2 season stop gap whilst we found someone better.

I very much like Ake in that regard but we still need to replace Vincent Kompany, who has been the real heart of the defence even when not playing.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

With this in mind, how do you feel about us spending £40m on Ake, if it now means we don't have the funds to address our clear weakness at RCB?

It doesn't though - you can have the money and still retain a realistic valuation of a targeted player.

£40m is nothing, even in the current market downturn. Ake is clearly a support signing to Laporte and can also help out cover at left-back.

 

[blueparrot]

Douglas Luiz, i just don’t understand why we haven’t got him back, we wanted him but couldn’t get a work permit,he goes to Villa gets a seasons experience in the premier league and impresses, it’s a no brainer for me.

Think because we still have Fernandinho and Gundogan, another year at villa and if he's looking good bring him back to replace Ferna and Gundogan.

 

[OrigamiNinja]

Nothing to suggest we don't have the funds.

Ok. How about the wisdom in spending £40m, on what most would agree is a Laporte/LB back up, when we finished the season with a 19 year old kid playing RCB who doesn't want to be here?

I have nothing against Ake but his signing gives me the same bad feelings that signing Rodri did. We didn't need a CDM, we had Fern and Gundog, who was in his best ever City form at the end of the 18/19 season. We needed a Vinny replacement and instead we signed Rodri and Cancelo. Fast forward 12 months and we still need that Vinny replacement, so what do we do? We sign Ake and then baulk at the asking price of the guy we had identified as our number 1 target for the RCB position. Ake is only a decent signing if we sign our main target as well.

 

[Sheikh rattle and roll]

No fight in Stones ? Really there seemed plenty when he was hooking one off the line v Liverpool

 

[Tugay One Cup]

You go for a fresher cake

Seems the baker's been slacking off.

 

[Coatigan]

Reports claim that we arw about to send pablo moreno on loan to girona, after bringing him in from juve earlier this summer.

I just don't get that. A)not one of our loans to girona has worked out well for us. b)fucks his club trained and even home grown status up, should he actually turn out to be first team material. C)he is highly rated, been around the Juventus first team last season, had some top clubs after him, and we get him and send him to fucking Girona?

Surely, having a rated promising youngster around, who has had top level involvement elsewhere, with Sergio and Jesus the only two strikers is better than loaning him to girona where he probably won't play anyway like most other loaned players, and will lose the chance to count as home grown . At least a championship team, if he needs to go for experience.