Another new Brexit thread

[mcfc1632]

You've obviously not read it, no bother.

Probably did - but some have the ability to filter out inconvenient truths

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Cameron did say that - he went on to say it would be a disaster and we shouldn't do it. Boris Johnson - King of the leavers - said the exact opposite, that it would be great and we would have an easy deal with the exact same benefits. Looks like Boris and his arsehole leave campaigners were full of shit. But yeah you keep flagging up what Cameron said.

Cameron voted remain, hardly surprising.
I think the very recent flapping and raging is, as yet, a wee bit premature.
Negotiations are ongoing, nothing is decided, etc; etc;
Flap away one way or the other when it is.
Not directed at yourself, just to all flappers in general.

 

[meltonblue]

To be fair, that article is already out of date and irrelevant to the bill that has come out today.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

OK, I'll bone up on the Mirror.

I read in instead of on and I shivered......

 

[BobKowalski]

As for the ‘we signed it in a rush‘ excuse...well ‘excuse fucking me‘ you lying cunts.

 

[BobKowalski]

You've obviously not read it, no bother.

No, I was to busy reading the article on Willy Brandt to bring me up to speed on the latest goings on in the UK Govt.

 

[BobKowalski]

Belfast Telegraph take on the matter...

‘The British govt isn't changing its Brexit plan today to help NI, but to suit its own selfish, strategic interests. A source tells me: "Dominic Cummings doesn't give a hoot about NI. It could fall into the Irish Sea & he wouldn't care."

Unexpected twist in Brexit saga has further polarised opinion

Politicians normally duck and dive around awkward questions. Brandon Lewis dispensed with such manoeuvrings when quizzed on the Government's new Brexit plan.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

 

[bluejon]

Belfast Telegraph take on the matter...

‘The British govt isn't changing its Brexit plan today to help NI, but to suit its own selfish, strategic interests. A source tells me: "Dominic Cummings doesn't give a hoot about NI. It could fall into the Irish Sea & he wouldn't care."

Unexpected twist in Brexit saga has further polarised opinion

Politicians normally duck and dive around awkward questions. Brandon Lewis dispensed with such manoeuvrings when quizzed on the Government's new Brexit plan.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

Well Dominic's going to find out he should have done a bit more homework when the US refuses to do business with us as a result of us fucking up the GFA. He really is a massive twat.

 

[mat]

Belfast Telegraph take on the matter...

‘The British govt isn't changing its Brexit plan today to help NI, but to suit its own selfish, strategic interests. A source tells me: "Dominic Cummings doesn't give a hoot about NI. It could fall into the Irish Sea & he wouldn't care."

Unexpected twist in Brexit saga has further polarised opinion

Politicians normally duck and dive around awkward questions. Brandon Lewis dispensed with such manoeuvrings when quizzed on the Government's new Brexit plan.

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk

An unelected bereaucrat dictating government policy. Isn't this why Brexit was voted for to stop this kind of interference?

 

[BobKowalski]

Welsh Shadow Tory Minister resigns...as much as we are having fun taking the piss, the Brexit angle is secondary to the damage this Internal Market Bill will do to our Union. This is shaping up to be more of an internal State crisis than an external one.

 

[stonerblue]

Nah - the WA was the EU's - slavishly accepted by May/Robbins

Johnson just happened to be in the chair when it was time to decide whether to either renegotiate it or move on and then dump it

Johnson is a clown with no understanding of detail - thankfully he seems to have people around/behind him that do understand detail and have nerve and grit

It won't be him that does the detail of any future agreements

Given the size of the hole May/Robbins dug for the EU - I am personally delighted to see the developing events.

They did well to initially dump the unfettered backstop - but May's WA still was loaded with EU controls over the UK.

I have been saying for months that we need to fully dump the PD and then try and limit the impacts of the WA through new legislation- but the level of steel and callousness being demonstrated is beyond my wildest hopes and expectations.

This must be Cummings behind the scenes - Johnson is not bright enough

Cummings? Who elected him?

 

[bluethrunthru]

another 24hrs on and this is the best excuse they can come up with

 

[BigOscar]

another 24hrs on and this is the best excuse they can come up with

Imagine claiming anything about this Brexit shambles has been done "too quickly"

 

[stonerblue]

Who said the following

"The first duty of the government is to uphold the law, if it tries to bob and weave and duck around that duty when it is inconvenient, if government does that, then so will the governed, and then nothing is safe, not home, not liberty, not life itself"

And

"Britain does not break treaties. It would be bad for Britain, bad for our relations with the rest of the world and bad for any future treaty on trade we may need to make"
[/QUOTE
Harty maguire?

 

[mat]

another 24hrs on and this is the best excuse they can come up with

The Gammonatti will lap it up and blame those pesky foreigners for their continued interference in our great nations policies.

 

[stonerblue]

Helmut Kohl? Sure, let’s chat about a German Chancellor from the last century. Oh wait, I forgot, that‘s you guys being up to date and contemporary.

Dont memtion tje war...

 

[stonerblue]

An unelected bereaucrat dictating government policy. Isn't this why Brexit was voted for to stop this kind of interference?

Yep

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

Welsh Shadow Tory Minister resigns...as much as we are having fun taking the piss, the Brexit angle is secondary to the damage this Internal Market Bill will do to our Union. This is shaping up to be more of an internal State crisis than an external one.

Its crazy - I dont see what the gain is. We all know that post transition trade will be a shit show, it will be shit whatever, there will still be a border in the irish sea - there will still be lorry parks in Kent and elsewhere. What are they trying to get out of this. I see zero upside - what am i missing?

 

[mcfc1632]

Cameron did say that - he went on to say it would be a disaster and we shouldn't do it. Boris Johnson - King of the leavers - said the exact opposite, that it would be great and we would have an easy deal with the exact same benefits. Looks like Boris and his arsehole leave campaigners were full of shit. But yeah you keep flagging up what Cameron said.

Hmmm

I know that it was a few years ago - but Cameron was the PM and head of Remain - he was the most authoritative person in the land and he spent £9m of our money to reaffirm those messages

Forgive me for thinking his stated views were relevant

 

[twosips]

We're absolutely fucked with these criminals in charge. Big round applause to all the Brexit voters. Driven us off a cliff. Staggering levels of self destruction just for pride's sake. I'm genuinely sad about what we're getting into and its becoming harder to picture a happy future in this country. Add the pandemic on this and it's going to be a very bleak few years for millions.