Another new Brexit thread

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nmc said:
Bernard Jenkin talking utter shit and patronising the presenter on Newsnight... omg.
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American Ways and Means committee chair saying there is “absolutely no chance of the U.K. getting a bilateral trade deal, if there is anything like a hard border in Ireland”. Looks like BoJo will be desperate for a Trump win which is somewhat ironic being as they are both as untrustworthy as each other.
 
jaseirai said:
The original point was about our international reputation being sullied. The French have never had any sort of reputation other than this.

"We asked Mitterrand not to give assistance to the Argentinians. If you're asking me: 'Are the French duplicitous people?' the answer is: 'Of course they are, and they always have been.'"
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You are Colonel Blimp andf i claim my five sovereigns.

Begad.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Yes, probably a poor example off the top of my head tbh. I think you are right, the damage will be significant/extensive. I just don't think it will be long term.
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Irrespective of the length of time the damage will be done... it's the fact its happening now. Right when (hopefully) someone is trying to line up / finalise trade deals.
 
Buried in the BBC and left wing comedy thread..... (where the gloss was that he's taking the piss out of Remainer attitudes).....

Actually, Lee is not on my favourite comics list - nearly walked out of his show at Edinburgh a few years ago - but this is rather more caustic than Henning Wehn's quip, more pertinent by the day, that the referendum question should have been "Do you want normality, or never-ending palaver?"

 
Is it just me, or is the Bill so complicated because it's trying to smuggle through something even nastier than breaking the law? I mean, wouldn't a one-clause bill do that? "Notwithstanding any other law, sovereignty means a minister of the crown (possibly one not elected) can make an Order with no parliamentary scrutiny to do whatever is necessary to make the UK look stupid"?
 
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Lol ' tracing their ancestry back to the old country' - this was why they all used to pass the collection box round for the 'cause' on St Patricks day until Al Qaeda made terrorism suddenly less fashionable in the US. In truth Al Qaeda probably did as much to support the GFA as any US politician.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Surely that's a good thing - no more chlorinated chicken or NHS control? Or is a US trade deal suddenly good now it is a lever to be used against the UK govt?
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They are one of our biggest trading partners. It would be a disaster to be trading on WTO rules with them, or anyone. The chlorinated chicken thing is just an example of our new 'lesser' status in terms of power and influence now that we've left the EU, no longer have the clout that comes from being part of that bloc and are desperate for friends. Unfortunately for us, we are acting like a bunch of cunts and friends are going to become harder and harder to find (breaking international law generally isn't a smart move).
 
bluejon said:
They are one of our biggest trading partners. It would be a disaster to be trading on WTO rules with them, or anyone. The chlorinated chicken thing is just an example of our new 'lesser' status in terms of power and influence now that we've left the EU, no longer have the clout that comes from being part of that bloc and are desperate for friends. Unfortunately for us, we are acting like a bunch of cunts and friends are going to become harder and harder to find (breaking international law generally isn't a smart move).
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Absolutely, but the folk that are now emphasising the importance of US trade and a US trade deal are the same ones that were scoffing at it's insignificance when it didn't suit their remain argument. I know bullshit and hypocrisy when I smell it thanks.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Absolutely, but the folk that are now emphasising the importance of US trade and a US trade deal are the same ones that were scoffing at it's insignificance when it didn't suit their remain argument. I know bullshit and hypocrisy when I smell it thanks.
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Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Absolutely, but the folk that are now emphasising the importance of US trade and a US trade deal are the same ones that were scoffing at it's insignificance when it didn't suit their remain argument. I know bullshit and hypocrisy when I smell it thanks.
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Absolutely - we have had months of these few posters banging on about the ills that would result from a TA with the USA - Project Fear Mk V11 I think it was

Now the same posters further display the only string to their bow - surfing the internet to find perceived bad news for the UK

I don't wish to see the UK in the position of breaking international law - but their stance is simply hypocrisy on a daily basis
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Absolutely, but the folk that are now emphasising the importance of US trade and a US trade deal are the same ones that were scoffing at it's insignificance when it didn't suit their remain argument. I know bullshit and hypocrisy when I smell it thanks.
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People didn't scoff at it's insignificance, they scoffed at the fact that it was nowhere near big enough to replace the lost trade with the EU. But now we are burning BOTH bridges, that's the point.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
People didn't scoff at it's insignificance, they scoffed at the fact that it was nowhere near big enough to replace the lost trade with the EU. But now we are burning BOTH bridges, that's the point.
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It wasn't just the insignificance - we were warned of the huge dangers to our food supply and healthcare inherent in doing a trade deal with the US. Pick your poison by all means,either may be true, but you can't have it both ways.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Absolutely, but the folk that are now emphasising the importance of US trade and a US trade deal are the same ones that were scoffing at it's insignificance when it didn't suit their remain argument. I know bullshit and hypocrisy when I smell it thanks.
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I can also smell bullshit and this post reeks of it. It is possible to be nervous about a US trade deal negotiated from a position of weakness outside the EU whilst also recognising that the US is our biggest individual trading partner as a single country, and pissing them off is not a great idea even for existing trade, never mind the increased trade we would hope to get as a result of a trade deal.

It’s also not wrong to point out that trade comparisons between the US and the EU as a whole show that EU trade is much more important. It doesn’t mean that US trade is insignificant.

Everything is always black and white with you. Saying things like we’re hypocritical if we’re bothered about US trade at all because of the chlorinated chicken issue is moronic.
Although you probably know this and you’re wumming.
 
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