Liverpool thread 2020/21

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Pablo1 said:
None of who should be trusted.
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So assuming that you’re from Manchester, who are your wools? Ours are the Wirral, Runcorn, Skem, St Helens, Widnes and all that. Are GM places like Oldham for example classed as wool to you?
 
Greggery Peccary said:
So assuming that you’re from Manchester, who are your wools? Ours are the Wirral, Runcorn, Skem, St Helens, Widnes and all that. Are GM places like Oldham for example classed as wool to you?
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I'm from Manchester. Yes, your wools, of which I'm sure you are one, are the same as mine.
I've lived in Liverpool, my ex wife and son live there, and I feel I'm on firm ground when I say nobody really uses the word 'footy' - unless of course you're a wrong'un.
 
Pablo1 said:
I'm from Manchester. Yes, your wools, of which I'm sure you are one, are the same as mine.
I've lived in Liverpool, my ex wife and son live there, and I feel I'm on firm ground when I say nobody really uses the word 'footy' - unless of course you're a wrong'un.
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You’re way off there, mate, but we’ll agree to disagree. Don’t know where they live or where you lived in Liverpool but I can guarantee there’ll be people round there who say footy. Out of interest, what’s the correct term then?
 
Greggery Peccary said:
You’re way off there, mate, but we’ll agree to disagree. Don’t know where they live or where you lived in Liverpool but I can guarantee there’ll be people round there who say footy. Out of interest, what’s the correct term then?
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Huyton.
Football.
 
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Greggery Peccary said:
Lineker signing for Barca was nothing to do with being out of Europe. The deal was done six months before it happened and was nothing more than a player using a club as a stepping stone to go to a bigger one.Remember, he was only at Everton for 12 months and shot the lights out, he scored about 40. Every big club in Europe were showing interest. But as for anybody else jibbing it off for European football, why didn’t any of our players do that? Rush was sold because we were broke and the fact that Inter and Juve had been sniffing around for a while. Meanwhile we formed one of our best ever teams who picked up big pots. None of them were in a hurry to jump ship for European football. It remains that the Everton being banned from Europe killed them myth is just that, it’s a myth.
And for the record, I’m happy to have footy chat like this all day. No snide remarks from anyone, just good old footy talk.
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Like I said it's all supposition as we will never know for sure but I think you're deflecting from the point that fundamentally the behaviour of your followers damaged Everton more than any other club.
It denied them the opportunity to win a European Cup, that team was good enough.
It severely hamstrung their ability to build on what they had with regard to recruitment retention of key players and one of their greatest ever managers as a result.
Your followers have raised banners mocking this and your club is happy to condone this by allowing them to do so in the stadium.
The world has been waiting 35 years for an apology and still the wait goes on.
Had the ban occurred 10 years earlier, there would have been no wins in 77 or 78 and i would suggest probably not in 81 or 84 either.
When Everton were banned they were just starting to establish themselves whereas Liverpool had been established for many years due to the dominance of the previous decade which was started through the investment by the Moores Family. As a result they were able to continue to dominate as the foundations were in place already.
You've highlighted Lineker, his exit was negotiated months before but who's to say he wouldn't have stayed if they had been in Europe and even won the European Cup?
You have also ignored the points about Kendall, Steven and Stevens and the damage to their ability to recruit and retain players as a club trying to cement it's position.
.You've also failed to point out that selling Rush went towards funding the purchases of Beardsley, Barnes and Houghton the same summer he left.
Three expensive signings and an increased wage bill.
He was bought back for slightly less a year later therefore to say he was sold because you were broke is simply not true is it?
 
Greggery Peccary said:
As I said at the time, I’ve been made to look like a complete tool here. I took my medicine in many, many verbal forms on here and then carried on. The difference here is that I don’t have the right of reply that others do when it comes to the more personal jibes because when I have, the other posters go crying to the mods. So I just stick to the footy chat, keep things in that area and stay around the sensibly toned posters.
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You could do us all a favour and 4cough
 
Pablo1 said:
Wrong'uns like I said.
Yonners.
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I don't thinks it "wrong uns" as such. Kids call it footy, they call their parents mummy and daddy also. It's something that changes as you get older and you gain maturity and a certain level of intelligence. Clearly that doesn't happen to everyone.
 
Blueboy73 said:
Like I said it's all supposition as we will never know for sure but I think you're deflecting from the point that fundamentally the behaviour of your followers damaged Everton more than any other club.
It denied them the opportunity to win a European Cup, that team was good enough.
It severely hamstrung their ability to build on what they had with regard to recruitment retention of key players and one of their greatest ever managers as a result.
Your followers have raised banners mocking this and your club is happy to condone this by allowing them to do so in the stadium.
The world has been waiting 35 years for an apology and still the wait goes on.
Had the ban occurred 10 years earlier, there would have been no wins in 77 or 78 and i would suggest probably not in 81 or 84 either.
When Everton were banned they were just starting to establish themselves whereas Liverpool had been established for many years due to the dominance of the previous decade which was started through the investment by the Moores Family. As a result they were able to continue to dominate as the foundations were in place already.
You've highlighted Lineker, his exit was negotiated months before but who's to say he wouldn't have stayed if they had been in Europe and even won the European Cup?
You have also ignored the points about Kendall, Steven and Stevens and the damage to their ability to recruit and retain players as a club trying to cement it's position.
.You've also failed to point out that selling Rush went towards funding the purchases of Beardsley, Barnes and Houghton the same summer he left.
Three expensive signings and an increased wage bill.
He was bought back for slightly less a year later therefore to say he was sold because you were broke is simply not true is it?
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But we didn’t damage them, did we? They were working under the same conditions as everyone else. They had a great team that saw other clubs trying to poach their better players. Look at the players you mentioned going out of the door, they could have easily stayed like their neighbours across the park. But they chose not to. All the players you mentioned and the manager were not motivated to leave because of no European football. They left because they wanted to go somewhere else. How many of them went on to have European success or even an half decent crack at it? The fact remains that they had a brilliant side post Heysel but we were better. I grew up in a time where you and your oppos went to Anfield one week and Goodison the next so I watched them a lot. Just a case of one being better than the other - as simple as that.

This is an account of the Rush to Juve transfer.

Ian Rush on his proposed move to Napoli - LFChistory - Stats galore for Liverpool FC!

LFChistory.net is all about the history of Liverpool FC. We have got all the match results from 1892 to today along with great player profiles
www.lfchistory.net
 
Greggery Peccary said:
But we didn’t damage them, did we? They were working under the same conditions as everyone else. They had a great team that saw other clubs trying to poach their better players. Look at the players you mentioned going out of the door, they could have easily stayed like their neighbours across the park. But they chose not to. All the players you mentioned and the manager were not motivated to leave because of no European football. They left because they wanted to go somewhere else. How many of them went on to have European success or even an half decent crack at it? The fact remains that they had a brilliant side post Heysel but we were better. I grew up in a time where you and your oppos went to Anfield one week and Goodison the next so I watched them a lot. Just a case of one being better than the other - as simple as that.

This is an account of the Rush to Juve transfer.

Ian Rush on his proposed move to Napoli - LFChistory - Stats galore for Liverpool FC!

LFChistory.net is all about the history of Liverpool FC. We have got all the match results from 1892 to today along with great player profiles
www.lfchistory.net
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You damaged all of English football.
 
Greggery Peccary said:
As I said at the time, I’ve been made to look like a complete tool here. I took my medicine in many, many verbal forms on here and then carried on. The difference here is that I don’t have the right of reply that others do when it comes to the more personal jibes because when I have, the other posters go crying to the mods. So I just stick to the footy chat, keep things in that area and stay around the sensibly toned posters.
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What an absolute shocker of a statement though by you which shouldn't be forgotten or brushed under the carpet because you want it to be..

A despicable comment, belittling the fans who actually died to score the cheapest of points..

You come across on here as your typical, gobby, never our fault, truth twisting dipper until called out and then you default to, it was a misunderstanding, oh look at me, what a fool I am..

I don't support your rancid club but even I knew no Liverpool fans died at that game, never mind 8..


You can hold your hands up as much as you like, that was a fkin shocking post by you..!
 
Absolutely unbelievable that you are seriously arguing that the ban after Heysel did not seriously impact Everton.

Read the article at the link below and get some understanding of the utter scum who followed Liverpool in those days.

https://www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/3228

The current generation of Liverpool fans are just as bad. How Liverpool get such positive coverage in the media is one of the greatest mysteries of our age.
 
Greggery Peccary said:
But we didn’t damage them, did we? They were working under the same conditions as everyone else. They had a great team that saw other clubs trying to poach their better players. Look at the players you mentioned going out of the door, they could have easily stayed like their neighbours across the park. But they chose not to. All the players you mentioned and the manager were not motivated to leave because of no European football. They left because they wanted to go somewhere else. How many of them went on to have European success or even an half decent crack at it? The fact remains that they had a brilliant side post Heysel but we were better. I grew up in a time where you and your oppos went to Anfield one week and Goodison the next so I watched them a lot. Just a case of one being better than the other - as simple as that.

This is an account of the Rush to Juve transfer.

Ian Rush on his proposed move to Napoli - LFChistory - Stats galore for Liverpool FC!

LFChistory.net is all about the history of Liverpool FC. We have got all the match results from 1892 to today along with great player profiles
www.lfchistory.net
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You're so wrong on every level and continue to cherry pick points that suit your narrative and air brush out the ones that don't.
Liverpool signed Beardsley for a British record fee and Barnes and Houghton were hardly bargain basement signings and all on big wages so hardly the actions a club struggling to balance the books is it?
As I've already pointed out and you have failed to address, Everton were only just getting started and I was also around at the time so yes, they were denied an opportunity to win the European cup and as a result, the opportunities that brings had they done so.
Equally if the ban was 10 years earlier, there would have been none of these mythical "nights under the lights" either or the opportunities European success allowed to cement this position.
Kendall left in 87 because he couldn't go any further and a big part of that was bring able to compete in Europe and it turned to shit.
I remember Dalglish walking out on your lot in 91 and it turned to shit pretty quickly for your lot too if I remember rightly.
 
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