Leeds United (A) Post Match Thread

baggy said:
Stop posting a generic internet forum response and offer your assessment instead. My original post was my summation of the game/last 12 months, yours was a copy/paste of 'how to (try to) shut somebody down on the internet'...
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I don’t have to assess nish mate as I'm not skriking and doing kneejerk posts like you and your "we aren't winning the league or champions league " after just three games.
You throw the towel in and be fickle and don't be shocked or try to be a smart arse calling me out after I've pulled you for such a pathetic post.

And shutting you down on the internet? Dafuq is that shit?
I'm just replying to you, if replies offend you then the internet isn't for sensitive souls like you.
 
King KdB of Belgium said:
The reason we dropped 2pts tonight is that Pep refuses to see that we need both a leader on the pitch and a 3rd striker. If this continues like this we will stand no chance of qualifying for next season's Champions League or Europa League. To me it looks like Pep hasn't a clue what to do.I

Yet again a great first half but a crap second half. That is now the 3rd game in a row that that has happened this season. Pep needs to get it sorted before the next game. That is what he is paid to do, if he can't get it done, then maybe it maybe time for Pep to go.

If this carries on we will be closer to relegation then being Champions. For us to be Champions we need to win the remaining 35 games. That will never happen. We seem to have lost the idea how to come a game once we have the lead.
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What do you mean Pep refuses to see? You're telling me that the Khaldoon is trying to buy VVD, Mbappe and Haaland but Pep isn't having any of it?
 
Bit confused by people slating Walker...are you getting him mixed up with our left back cause thats where the problem is???
 
SWPISHOME said:
We need to get our own house in order first, Enough of refs, making excuses, var, liverpool ect
We've been fucking garbage for well over a year, Liverpool have been head and shoulders above anything in the league so far with or without VAR.
Time to start the realisation of us not been good enough.
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It's not really about VAR, that was only an afterthought. It's about why we haven't been good enough, these players aren't shit, the coaching isn't shit, I'm not having personally. Lets not make out Laporte's injury wasn't catastrophic to our season last year, ontop of losing a figure like Kompany from the dressing room, it couldn't have come at a worse time. These kind of setbacks all seem to come at once with City too, it's uncanny and yet it's the polar opposite at Liverpool.

I was mainly talking about the fact that Klopp has pretty much had a easy time with his squad selection, it picks itself, they are able to keep their rythm because they are mostly always available. Pep must be envious of that atleast, as much as Klopp goes on about money, a manager has no control over players being unavailable to him. That's the voodoo stuff I was talking about. I'm not going to go into conspiracies with it but Pep's never had the luck Klopp's had 3 seasons in a row at City.

I'd just like to see how Liverpool would cope with a start to the season like we had, maybe they would cope but we've yet to see it.

As for City, yes all teams have their setbacks but some more than others. I'd just like to see an unhampered City able to maintain some rhythm(uninterrupted) at full strength for a bit to see if they can get back to where they were in 2017/18. I'd also like to finally see City have a solid left back in the team under Pep. Mendy is slowly getting better but who knows how much improvement we'll see, all but the most patient of fans have given up on him already.

Maybe I am biased but it feels like we haven't seen the best of this system(Pep football) with this squad yet because something always sets us back as soon as things start falling into place.
 
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Ric said:
We were brilliant for the first 25 minutes, and looked the side most likely to win it in the last ten minutes. There was quite an alarming drop off in between though. Profligacy in front of goal was costly, as is so often the case with us.

Glad it’s an international break now tbh. Hopefully we’ll get a few bodies back by the time of the Arsenal game (Aguero, Jesus, Cancelo, Gundogan) and we’ll be stronger for it. Feels like it could be a difficult season though, and uncertainty over Guardiola’s future not helping. Dias looked really good though, on the bright side.
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Thoughts on the board failing to sign a LB/CM/Forward, Ric ?
 
porkchopsaplenty said:
They didnt though they conceded 3 goals & it took a last minute pen to beat them. We were one mistake away from beating Leeds despite having both senior strikers injured.
Liverpool are better than us at the moment but let's see how well they'd do without Mane & Salah v Leeds or alot ofvteams tbh.
Thats equivalent to us without Aguero & Jesus.
It's a long season mate. They'll be times when everyone has bad luck, injuries etc. Dippers included
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What’s the betting that they postpone their games because their squad is affected by Covid.. watch this space
 
Belting game of football. Thoroughly enjoyed it. 2 teams going toe to toe. Not arsed we didn’t win as I was entertained for 90 mins. Think some people haven’t really grasped the fact that this is essentially our pre season, so we will definitely get better as the season progresses. Tiny percentages make a big big difference at the top of the tree & not having a preseason will definitely harm us this early in the season.

Thought both teams played some fantastic stuff today. Leeds really impressed me
 
kanovic said:
Lose or tie with Arsenal and we are in trouble
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We're probably in trouble already mate .... title winning teams don't lose, or draw, too many games nowadays, and we are already losing ground on them!
 
pavelsrnicek said:
The obvious issues are still there. The 3 new signings bedding in isn’t the issue. They haven’t caused us any problems as such.

Having 2 strikers one of which is 32 with injury problems is an issue, the balance of the midfield is an issue, the loss of Silva with no obvious replacement is an issue, having one natural but out of form left back is an issue, the way our team panics after conceding is an issue, the amount of quality chances we concede is an issue.

I understand that we had a short break, I know we have injury and Covid issues but we are still showing the same fragility. We’ve become flat track bullies, great when we’re two goals up but likely to collapse when things go wrong.
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Don’t forget most on here thought foden was a ready made replacement for Silva . How can you exoect a young kid who has hardly played to step into the shoes of our greatest ever player. We are really missing David Silva.
 
KennyG said:
If we didn’t realise, we do now. Arteta was doing a lot of the legwork. There was once a time when I’d have loved Mourinho here, which proves all managers have a shelf life. Bayern have coped incredibly well after Pep. His time here is done.
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How you get away with your shite I'll never know.
 
I know some people will be saying that were over reacting with just 4 games played this season, but this is just a continuation of the same problems as last year. That's what bugs me the most.

This team now would not beat the two title winning teams we had under Pep. Simple as that for me. We have not replaced Sane, Kompany, Silva with anything like the same level of quality. We have not got a player with anything like the same quality as Aguero lined up either. And we o ly have 2 strikers one of which misses 15 games a season though injury.

I totally expect to see plenty of games this season where we win 5 on the bounce then draw to Fulham and lose to a West Ham. Were in danger of becoming Arsenal - capable of beating anyone and capable of losing to anyone.

As I've said before this is a massive challenge for Pep. He's spent another 100m on the defence and he's not seemingly committed to staying.

We need to know if he is staying and if not then we all need to move on. What we've got now is a manager who is unable to bring out the best in the squad as the players are losing faith with him. If he cannot turn it round and quick then we have to move on I'm afraid. And this is from someone who thinks he's the best manager in the world.
 
I can't believe how far off the pace we have fallen in two seasons, it's unreal. Three games in and the title had already gone for us. Five points behind a strong Liverpool who aren't going to drop many, if any points this season.

We haven't addressed our glaring weaknesses which is left back, defensive and creative midfield and another striker. Hopefully when he settles Dias will solve the centre back problem, but as well as Mendy played in patches he will always be a weak spot. Add to that Walker being prone to switching off and sloppy play on the other side and teams are always going to score against us.

Mahrez just doesn't fit our style at all. Rodri is too slow to be an effective DM and Fern is 35. Sterling isn't clinical enough to be our main striker. His goal was great but his one on one miss awful. Foden is no Silva but who is in fairness? He is young and may be world class one day but not yet.

More worryingly the team in the last two games don't look like they believe in what they are doing and worse don't look like they know what they are supposed to be doing. We go into our shells, look timid and lack guts and leadership. Aguero and Jesus coming back isn't going to solve everything.

We have gone from buzzing beating Wolves away to despair at the last two results. Pep has a huge job on his hands here, it may be a season too far.
 
porkchopsaplenty said:
They didnt though they conceded 3 goals & it took a last minute pen to beat them. We were one mistake away from beating Leeds despite having both senior strikers injured.
Liverpool are better than us at the moment but let's see how well they'd do without Mane & Salah v Leeds or alot ofvteams tbh.
Thats equivalent to us without Aguero & Jesus.
It's a long season mate. They'll be times when everyone has bad luck, injuries etc. Dippers included
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Leeds caught them at the best time. They would have strolled it tonight, as we would two seasons ago.

But lets imagine those Liverpool players get injured for once. What have we done do far, to indicate we would be the team to cash in ?

We are very close to chucking it, already.

We need to get fit & start playing, after the break.
 
ShaunMCFC said:
Good post, but we both know their key players just don't pick up injuries. Not that I want them too, I just can't figure it out.
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They are lucky, I cant deny it with injuries.
Even Mane getting Covid means he gets a rest for 2 weeks over the international break & doesn't miss any key games for them.
I wouldn't wish any player getting injured or sick to gain an advantage. It's a rag or dipper trait.
I'm just using it to illustrate a point about their general luck
 
After a promising and dominating start that turned into a weird (not a good weird) performance before the last 10 minutes where we probably deserved to win. The substitutions were key to that but a that we had to make two ‘negative’ substitutions to gain control of the game.

Rodri was hands down the best outfield player today, I’d say that KDB was way off his best, maybe feeling he’s needing to force things at the moment and Foden didn’t look ready to take on the central midfield role.

Our wingers didn’t influence the game enough, although at least there are signs of promise with Torres.

Decent start from Dias and Laporte looked back to his normal form.

We really need Jesus and Aguero back and available, It’s been a hurdle we’ve just not been able to deal with.

Mendy is so frustrating and ultimately unreliable, it feels like you are waiting for the next mistake no matter how well he plays.
 
Maly Wilson said:
Belting game of football. Thoroughly enjoyed it. 2 teams going toe to toe. Not arsed we didn’t win as I was entertained for 90 mins. Think some people haven’t really grasped the fact that this is essentially our pre season, so we will definitely get better as the season progresses. Tiny percentages make a big big difference at the top of the tree & not having a preseason will definitely harm us this early in the season.

Thought both teams played some fantastic stuff today. Leeds really impressed me
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I agree with you but it’s not our pre-season is it
 
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