Pep's contract situation | 2 year extension confirmed! (pg1817)

After our less than great start,where we were lucky against Wolves,capitulated defensively against Leicester,and could have lost on another day to Leeds.The games dont get any easier.

First up after the international break is Arsenal at home on the 14th,followed by away games at West Ham, who are on a bit of a roll,and Sheffield United.Then Liverpool at home,and Spurs away.

We need to improve significantly.

I know it is a bit early in the season for calling it a defining period of games.

But after our season start, i really think it is.

We could hit form,beat Liverpool get a few decent results,and be right back in the mix.

Or we could struggle in them,and get absolutely twatted by Liverpool.

And he walks,or is pushed before the end of November.
 
If we do not make top 4 then he will not and neither will he be offered.

Looks like a high probability the way we seem to be ready to play games only for 45min and Pep appearing clueless on sidelines.
 
I would like Pep to stay but if we're gonna let him go, just sack him now rather than watch this train wreck for a season. Better to let another manager salvage the season and get us a top 4 atleast.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
I think this is his last season. He always said he would stay for as long as he felt he was getting the best out of the squad and his comments this season indicate he thinks he isn't. For those that have worked for super intense genius bosses, it has a finite life. They either burn out or their team burns out. Even this season, when we play like we did for the first 25 minutes yesterday, it is an absolute joy to watch and nobody else comes close. That we managed to maintain that over 2 seasons is crazy. In a way, he was fortunate to inherit an amazing spine to the team. Vinnie, Fern, David and Kun and he augmented that by improving other players like Kev, Eddie, Kyle, Phil, Raz and Gabby. He also took good but not great players and turned them into well oil parts of an amazing machine. I'm thinking Delph, Otamendi, Zinc for a while. He will leave a legacy and I will always think of him as our best ever Coach.

Hard act to follow. I really don't know who I would like.I do know who I wouldn't want anywhere near our club (Rodgers, Klopp, Maureen). I would love at some point Vinnie to return once he has learned the ropes but it remains to be seen that he will make it as a top flight coach.
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I really don't know what decision is the right one but I think your post is close to what is happening atm. I saw a Bayern player being interviewed and he was praising Pep to high heaven for improving his game in all sorts of ways but said towards the end Pep and the players were exhausted and no matter how much they tried they couldn't get back to how they had been playing. I wonder if there is no villain in the situation we find ourselves in because we know what our players can do and we know what Pep can do it may just be that the standards we set for two seasons are unreachable again and that is putting a downer on everyone involved. I admit I don't know shit about whats really going on it could be a slump and we will bounce back and and we'll all look stupid for worrying but something just feels wrong at the moment. I think laying blame on certain players or Pep is a waste it feels as if it might be a more collective problem.
 
ctwrd said:
Assuming plan b is not just lump it up top when looking for a goal, pep does sometimes adjust to the opposition (plan b) and is accused of overthinking or changing unnecessarily if it goes wrong.
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Of course Plan B does not assume that. We dont play that way. What we dont do however is manage games, adapt to changes in formations against us or make substitutions that would address problems until it is too late.
 
I think this is a a rebuild it will take time for the new players and youth to gell we will see the results in the coming months......to late for the leuge but for next season IMHO
 
The way things are going, I don't think that Pep dose deserve a new contract. Over the last two seasons Pep has done nothing to halt the decline in the team. We have been crying out for a back up striker since the start of last season. So what has Pep done about it, absolutely nothing. Pep knowing that, both Sergio and Jesus are at one time, either one or both of them likely to be out injured at the same time.

So Pep's better sort out our problems by the time the next game against Arsenal at home. However I won't hold my breath that Pep will do anything to surprise us. To me I don't think that Pep has any idea what to do to change things.

We are already 8pts behind the league leaders which are Everton. How can a team like Everton be so far ahead of City. Perhaps it is the players they have bought,even Livarpool have bought players to improve their squad. Yet Pep has yet again bought players who may improve our squad and I some will go straight out on loan.

So what I want to know is what the hell is Pep transfer strategy. Most of his transfers have promising players, who have gone straight out on loan and more than likely never to be seen playing for us. I would rather have players coming in who can come and play in the first team straight away, not someone who will only be sold at a profit.
 
kalouk said:
I really don't know what decision is the right one but I think your post is close to what is happening atm. I saw a Bayern player being interviewed and he was praising Pep to high heaven for improving his game in all sorts of ways but said towards the end Pep and the players were exhausted and no matter how much they tried they couldn't get back to how they had been playing. I wonder if there is no villain in the situation we find ourselves in because we know what our players can do and we know what Pep can do it may just be that the standards we set for two seasons are unreachable again and that is putting a downer on everyone involved. I admit I don't know shit about whats really going on it could be a slump and we will bounce back and and we'll all look stupid for worrying but something just feels wrong at the moment. I think laying blame on certain players or Pep is a waste it feels as if it might be a more collective problem.
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I still see the situation more different as I think that the team in Munich offered more tactical possibilities to your team that often were decisive in the end. And Pep really used this possibilities even of some of the players weren't "his choice" of players.

When I watch your matches I do not see this tactical different plans. So your Plan A might even be better.

Our players end of the season 15/16 really were drained - you saw that at the Euros, too. After the four to five years before not really surprising. Not just because of Pep but we had a lot of injuries and the key players seldom had rests.
 
I'm not sure Pep will extend now. From what we see, that whole intensity is no there, I maybe wrong. I'm also not sure of his Number 2 too. Why would the board want to give more money if Pep is non committal as a new manager may not want to work with some of the players. This team needs a new spine along with a re-energised Pep or a new manager
 
kalouk said:
I really don't know what decision is the right one but I think your post is close to what is happening atm. I saw a Bayern player being interviewed and he was praising Pep to high heaven for improving his game in all sorts of ways but said towards the end Pep and the players were exhausted and no matter how much they tried they couldn't get back to how they had been playing. I wonder if there is no villain in the situation we find ourselves in because we know what our players can do and we know what Pep can do it may just be that the standards we set for two seasons are unreachable again and that is putting a downer on everyone involved. I admit I don't know shit about whats really going on it could be a slump and we will bounce back and and we'll all look stupid for worrying but something just feels wrong at the moment. I think laying blame on certain players or Pep is a waste it feels as if it might be a more collective problem.
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Yes. I read a number of comments by Bayern players that said that. It might be we now go on a run of 20 straight wins - I certainly hope that happens. The thing is though, we are like a well oiled machine, every single component has to work perfectly. It is a great deal more complex game that we play compared to a Leicester or Liverpool. I'm not knocking them, it just is true. I cant see him doing anything in football other than hands on coaching. He may well take another sabbatical and then return to put another club through his methods for another three years. I don't believe he would be as effective at International level as his lack of time with players would just frustrate him. All my opinion of course but looking at his career and the patterns that emerge and the signs that are there....
 
kalouk said:
I really don't know what decision is the right one but I think your post is close to what is happening atm. I saw a Bayern player being interviewed and he was praising Pep to high heaven for improving his game in all sorts of ways but said towards the end Pep and the players were exhausted and no matter how much they tried they couldn't get back to how they had been playing. I wonder if there is no villain in the situation we find ourselves in because we know what our players can do and we know what Pep can do it may just be that the standards we set for two seasons are unreachable again and that is putting a downer on everyone involved. I admit I don't know shit about whats really going on it could be a slump and we will bounce back and and we'll all look stupid for worrying but something just feels wrong at the moment. I think laying blame on certain players or Pep is a waste it feels as if it might be a more collective problem.
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good post and probably somewhere near the truth.
 
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