It's Quiet thread 14 - 'do one' edition

[leo_city]

There you go. We haven't been that bad.

Garcia was a pure ego game. We could have got a LB but No good LB that fits city profile was available on the market. Now it's time for football and winning titles. We have a good squad and I believe in city and our team

Peep the replies, genuinely baffled. FT weapons are complaining about sales now. They really want the net spend trophy.

 

[leo_city]

£71m sales

£127m spent buying Aké, Torres, and Ruben Dias.

£56m net spend, and we had the money to go get who we wanted, failure to address a left back can be pinned to moving on Zinchenko or anyone else. We had a free spot regardless of him moving and should've gotten someone. I can criticise them for this, but could not care less about who sold for what.

 

[oakiecokie]

£71m sales

£127m spent buying Aké, Torres, and Ruben Dias.

£56m net spend, and we had the money to go get who we wanted, failure to address a left back can be pinned to moving on Zinchenko or anyone else. We had a free spot regardless of him moving and should've gotten someone. I can criticise them for this, but could not care less about who sold for what.

At the end of the day its down to who is available,that falls into our business plan,who Pep actually wants and can he fit the system.
No point in buying just for the sake of it.I want a left back as much as the next fan but we do have cover if need be with Ake.Its not ideal but its not fucking FIFA Games when you can go out and spend what you want.
Overall I`m very happy with our acquisitions this window,especially as we`ve now double cover at centre half.

 

[Keeper!]

Tosin had a total of 1 good spell in championship last season at Blackburn and he's already 23, in the final year of his contract. He did not want to renew, so off he went for peanuts. Not that complicated.

Exactly this, if he was as good as people claim on here , Tosin would have had the pick of many clubs.

As it was only Fulham waned him and sadly almost certainly he will be back in the Championship this time next year.

Good luck Tosin.

 

[simon23]

We have certainly addressed one area of need

We do seem to be a bit weak when selling players - maybe its because of the wages we put players on - I dont know?

What is more of a concern for me is the failure to address glaring weaknesses - ones that have been clearly obvious for 2-3 yrs in the case of a left back

the knock on effect of this is that it brings into question the ability of the club to replace Kun and Ferna - two absolutely vital players if whom we dont replace with equal quality will significantly affect our ability to compete - people will point towards Gabriel Jesus - he will never be the quality that Kun has been - a very good player but he is not going to be that player who wins you things

the same could be said with Rodri replacing Ferna

We lack pace, and drive throughout the team - Arsenal have just got Partey - he looks like the ideal payer to play the single pivot role in our team - defensively very sound, dynamic and athletic and can cover large spaces - the only thing Im unsure of is his passing (which I know is key) -

It seems from the outside (though hopefully this is wrong) that we seem to fish in the same pools - Spain, Portugal, South America - whereas we seem to not look at players in Germany for instance that often......
Again maybe this isnt accurate (hoepfulyl its not)

 

[leo_city]

Exactly this, if he was as good as people claim on here , Tosin would have had the pick of many clubs.

As it was only Fulham waned him and sadly almost certainly he will be back in the Championship this time next year.

Good luck Tosin.

I for one hope he does really well and helps them stay up, but you can already tell that certain managers and teams survive in Prem if they're extremely well organised coming up from championship. Fulham are far from that, they look the same terrible side that went down not long ago, came up again because Championship quality isn't all that, and clearly look far from the rest so far.

 

[waspish]

£71m sales

£127m spent buying Aké, Torres, and Ruben Dias.

£56m net spend, and we had the money to go get who we wanted, failure to address a left back can be pinned to moving on Zinchenko or anyone else. We had a free spot regardless of him moving and should've gotten someone. I can criticise them for this, but could not care less about who sold for what.

Maybe we being more responsible than others with covid and our turnover will drop at least 50m in the next 12 months plus city got what they planned to get a winger a centre back next season maybe we go after a left back and a striker that won’t come cheap!? If covid is still happening and fans are still not allowed in or only a small % some clubs could be inning trouble so we may get a bargain.

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

So why is that,
A. different circumstances and models of business, and what's worked to make us a club with one of the biggest turnovers, profitable and the most succesful English club on the pithch over the last 10 years. Using some of the most sought after people in football.
B. We employ idiots and after 12 years the clubs very succesful owners haven't noticed or bothered, to change those working at the club , but we've winged it and got away with it.

Take your time.

I like this idea that because we’re successful we can’t improve. The idea that we’re not allowed to complain at players being sold for cheap because we’re successful is silly. Surely there is that gap where we can still be successful but also make more on players? It is not one or the other

 

[The1nvisibleMan]

We have certainly addressed one area of need

We do seem to be a bit weak when selling players - maybe its because of the wages we put players on - I dont know?

What is more of a concern for me is the failure to address glaring weaknesses - ones that have been clearly obvious for 2-3 yrs in the case of a left back

the knock on effect of this is that it brings into question the ability of the club to replace Kun and Ferna - two absolutely vital players if whom we dont replace with equal quality will significantly affect our ability to compete - people will point towards Gabriel Jesus - he will never be the quality that Kun has been - a very good player but he is not going to be that player who wins you things

the same could be said with Rodri replacing Ferna

We lack pace, and drive throughout the team - Arsenal have just got Partey - he looks like the ideal payer to play the single pivot role in our team - defensively very sound, dynamic and athletic and can cover large spaces - the only thing Im unsure of is his passing (which I know is key) -

It seems from the outside (though hopefully this is wrong) that we seem to fish in the same pools - Spain, Portugal, South America - whereas we seem to not look at players in Germany for instance that often......
Again maybe this isnt accurate (hoepfulyl its not)

Rodri is shafted because he clearly lacks pace but has no one beside him. Dinho had help from the Full backs coming inside whereas Rodri doesnt

 

[blueparrot]

I like this idea that because we’re successful we can’t improve. The idea that we’re not allowed to complain at players being sold for cheap because we’re successful is silly. Surely there is that gap where we can still be successful but also make more on players? It is not one or the other

Of course we can improve, of course we get things wrong, and we can all point out where we think they have. That is completely different to the posters that post we are rubbish at selling or Txiki is rubbish. Because the truth is they are very competent and if they weren't the club would replace them ,because they aren't idiots.
They'll get it right in the vast majority of cases, as results on the field and in the accounts will show.
All I 'm saying is we may think the club have something wrong or made a mistake occasionally we'll be right, but I start from the position that they know much more than me, see the bigger picture with all the information available. The probability is they'll be proved right more often than I or any poster on here will.

 

[Matt.D]

Rodri is shafted because he clearly lacks pace but has no one beside him. Dinho had help from the Full backs coming inside whereas Rodri doesnt

Mate come on. Fernandinho was on his OWN in that midfield for years even before Pep. He was so good that no one even speaks about how petulant and lazy Yaya was off the ball, they simply remember his match winning contributions which were allowed to be exactly that because of Fernandinho. Under Mancini Yayas most memorable moments came when we had Barry and De Jong in there with Yaya moved further up (Stoke, United, Newcastle etc.) - Fernandinho so good, quick and agile that we only needed 1 DM to allow Yaya to do the same job.

The fullbacks tucking inside under pep... this was only one fullback at a time and would only be when we had the ball. Soon as we lose it they are back in their position.

There’s a major problem with Rodri being first choice, just acknowledge it.

 

[Keeper!]

I for one hope he does really well and helps them stay up, but you can already tell that certain managers and teams survive in Prem if they're extremely well organised coming up from championship. Fulham are far from that, they look the same terrible side that went down not long ago, came up again because Championship quality isn't all that, and clearly look far from the rest so far.

Scotty seems a decent guy, the owner and family seems like their in it for the ego's to be massaged.

 

[Semper aggressus]

Of course we can improve, of course we get things wrong, and we can all point out where we think they have. That is completely different to the posters that post we are rubbish at selling or Txiki is rubbish. Because the truth is they are very competent and if they weren't the club would replace them ,because they aren't idiots.
They'll get it right in the vast majority of cases, as results on the field and in the accounts will show.
All I 'm saying is we may think the club have something wrong or made a mistake occasionally we'll be right, but I start from the position that they know much more than me, see the bigger picture with all the information available. The probability is they'll be proved right more often than I or any poster on here will.

I agree entirely with this, although I have to say I still don't know why they thought we didn't need a left back this transfer window.

 

[City Raider]

£50m net spend puts is in a strong position for a rebuild if Pep leaves, plus an Aguero replacement. This window has been frustrating but it will be part of a longer term plan. We don’t react to a couple of bad results the way the rags do anymore.

 

[blueparrot]

I agree entirely with this, although I have to say I still don't know why they thought we didn't need a left back this transfer window.

We tried, I think but didn't because, Zinchenko wouldn't leave. That leaves questions about should we have bought one anyway. I'm inclined to say we should. Lets see how it goes with Ake, Mendy, Cancelo, Zinchenko. Maybe we'll look again in January at left back.

 

[Scottyboi]

Looking at it logically it is a good window if the intention is for a big rebuild next summer trying to replace our best ever striker.

 

[leo_city]

I like this idea that because we’re successful we can’t improve. The idea that we’re not allowed to complain at players being sold for cheap because we’re successful is silly. Surely there is that gap where we can still be successful but also make more on players? It is not one or the other

We cannot be successful if we don't fulfill a certain number in sales, or get revenue from other means. We HAVE been successful because those things have worked, making an expected extra amount in sale of additional 1 or 2 players won't make huge difference, because if it really did we would have offloaded these players if it meant it was necessary, or rather, necessary in helping us gain revenue to balance sheets or buy some player. Neither is the case, so I find it odd that fans complain about sales all of a sudden, first it was Pep, then team and certain individuals causing issues, the Txiki and board, who next? All from 1 transfer window and 3 games into new season, heads gone and we are moaning about absolute rubbish, the very rubbish we look down upon when fans of other teams showcase such behaviour or show such frustrations.

 

[Keeper!]

£50m net spend puts is in a strong position for a rebuild if Pep leaves, plus an Aguero replacement. This window has been frustrating but it will be part of a longer term plan. We don’t react to a couple of bad results the way the rags do anymore.

Not sure we or any club will be in a good position next season.

Covid is hurting football finances badly, and with no fans till next year at the earliest, things could get even worse, hence a reason why we have not spent big money.

 

[leo_city]

£50m net spend puts is in a strong position for a rebuild if Pep leaves, plus an Aguero replacement. This window has been frustrating but it will be part of a longer term plan. We don’t react to a couple of bad results the way the rags do anymore.

Seems that is exactly what is happening here now.

 

[leo_city]

Some of our fans are so confused. Wanting to pay whatever price to get a top centre back, but... Let's also keep Stones, let's also keep Tosin?? You'd rather a 23 year old stay again when he could be getting valuable gametime and experience elsewhere? And is it totally forgotten we wanted Tosin to stay and renew, but it was HIS decision this window to move permanently. So now we have to somehow expect someone will show up with 20-25m on deadline day? Great logic.