Another new Brexit thread

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BobKowalski said:
If fish is all that remains then it’s looking good, if perception more than substance is what the UK requires then, like with the Withdrawal Agreement, victory is within our grasp*

*until we read the smallprint.
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We don’t need to read the small-print. I’m sure it’ll be fine just like the WA. Just ask IDS.
 
west didsblue said:
UK wins so far
- Barnier’s coming to London to negotiate
- They’ve agreed to treat us as a sovereign nation

EU wins
- 3 year transition for fishing

I bet they’ve even agreed to speak English in the negotiations. We’ll be asking them to recognise London as the undisputed capital of the UK next.

Too much winning.
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Whatever happened to Britain having no chance of a FTA, no chance was there?
 
Len Rum said:
Come on mate I'm not about to compare a potential deal that was never negotiated by Mavis with another different and lighter potential deal that has still to be negotiated by BoJo.
Just on your application for EU residency, are you aware that the citizenship for investment scheme in Cyprus finishes on 1st November?
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But Len - on the first part of your post you seem (like others on here today) to be somewhat running for cover??

Let me remind you of what you posted:
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Bojo agrees to new talks after his October 15 ultimatum failed.
Good news.
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So - this theme of capitulation by the UK appears have not been well founded and wishful thinking?

Now come on - you normally provide an answer even when others dodge - why is it that there seem to be quite a few UK citizens on here that are apparently very keen to see bad outcomes and difficulties for the UK

Why would the UK suffering badly in the negotiations be a thing to be wished for and (for some - not you) seemingly long for?

Re the 2nd part of your post - I thank you for your concern, but there are several ways of dealing with that issue and I am not constrained by a process that ends in a week or two.
 
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west didsblue said:
It wasn’t me.

iirc it was some of the Brexiteers on here who were getting tumescent about the prospect of No Deal. I hope they’re not too disappointed if we get a deal over the line.
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Some of those Brexiteers included me, if it meant accepting staying in the CU, Single Market and ECJ, as that meant staying in.
But I have consistently said a FTA would be struck, once May was outed, and I believe I will be right.
 
Vic said:
Can we kill this distraction?

MP gets a criminal conviction for fiddling expenses, loses a recall vote, is reselected by his party to fight the by-election which he loses.

I don't really need to edit anything, do I?
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The post that you replying to was my reply to @blueinsa
 
BobKowalski said:
Netherlands one of the hold outs on fish apparently...

’Michel Barnier told a meeting of EU envoys last night he 'wasn’t worried about anything else but fish'. One diplomat said: 'Fish is now the thing to tackle. The other elements seem doable.' When fishing is the only blockage left it means a deal is close.‘

www.reuters.com

Time running short, UK and EU get back down to Brexit business

With time fast running out, Britain and the European Union were starting intensified daily talks on Thursday in a final push for a deal to protect billions of dollars of post-Brexit trade.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
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I am hoping that the outcome is that existing rights for EU fishing fleets are agreed for 3 years - because that will actually be a better outcome for the UK - including the fishing industry.

Any Remainer able to articulate why?
 
Did we miss Tuesday's highlight?

Senior minister Michael Gove joined Johnson on a conference call with 250 business leaders on Tuesday and reportedly told them that Brexit was like moving house — hassle at first, but worth it in the end to live somewhere nicer. That went down “like a bucket of cold sick”, according to one participant cited in the Financial Times.
 
mcfc1632 said:
I am hoping that the outcome is that existing rights for EU fishing fleets are agreed for 3 years - because that will actually be a better outcome for the UK - including the fishing industry.

Any Remainer able to articulate why?
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No, it's your game, and I don't know the rules. Is this the bit where I put my neck in a noose?
 
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west didsblue said:
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Maybe they’ve gone to Blue John Cavern for the next round of talks.
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Nah - Mother Shiptons Cave - right in Rishi's constituency.

No hang on he's not there much at the moment - claiming he is needed at number 11 but thats a handy excuse as businesses and farms in his area are increasingly angry with him over the pandemic fight and the approaching Brexit
 
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