COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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itsnevereasy said:
Mate - drive home and see your family, they need you and you need them.
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If you are working away, then your travel is "essential for work" in my view, I work with colleagues who are away from home for a week at a time, but they are allowed to travel home, and did so through the first lockdown.

It's "essential" they do their week away, don't see why you're different, get your employer to give you a letter to allow you to travel, I have one to allow me to go to work.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
Well if you follow the science you should still be able to meet people outside as long as you are socially distanced. There is no scientific reason why you still cant do this as far as i can tell. I dont see why this has been stopped and yet I can sit on plane or train and be less than 2 m away from someone. I think I am better making my own judgments than listening to this lot. Ive avoided Indoor spaces and public transport. cancelled our holiday as we didn't want to sit on a crowded plane and yet im told i cant sit outside with friends. yet the science says its safe. They are just making it up as they go along.

www.medrxiv.org

Indoor transmission of SARS-CoV-2

Background By early April 2020, the COVID-19 pandemic had infected nearly one million people and had spread to nearly all countries worldwide. It is essential to understand where and how SARS-CoV-2 is transmitted. Methods Case reports were extracted from the local Municipal Health Commissions...
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That second wave of deaths doesn’t look like it’s coming either and that’s based on their own graphs.....

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cleavers said:
Yes hence "cases are still growing" because it's above 1, you said "R" was "accelerating", it isn't, it's dropped slightly.

I never said cases weren't rising, they are, but the rise in cases has levelled off, and my later post show's why.
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Well cases would be rising if R was below 1.
But we're just discussing semantics so this is my last post on the mater.
 
Ric said:
Surely most of those graphs suggest deaths are starting to rise significantly again?!
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they probably will in the next 2/3 weeks, but cases looked to be starting to stabilise in regions where efforts have been made so far which bodes well for controlling that better in the next 4 weeks. The quandary being that deaths may well be at the highest then and if the media go into their usual hysterics then the pressure will be on to extend even though cases and R could be well on their way down again.

Depends how much of it is down to schools/unis, I guess we'll now find out for sure, but I guess by December they can just say have an extra few weeks of school and put everyone in Tier 3 for Christmas.
 
1. The country is fucked. Has been since March.
2. Can we not turn this into a political point scoring exercise. Regardless of what the government have our haven't done at no point have I seen the opposition suggest we sit round the table and discuss what is best for the country as a whole.
3. As mentioned previously, in my opinion, the figures coming out of London have been deliberately under reported to prevent a national lockdown. The shift in cases from lockdown one to now is a shift equivalent to a fourteen fold turnaround in infection rates.
4. I don't and have never voted for any political party in this country. I am still waiting for an NHS operation to correct my problems (started in February). I have returned to work this last week regardless of the pain I am in as I need of income to protect wife and kids. She lost her job last lockdown and I'm a prime candidate for being potted this time as highest earner with shortest service.
 
trumpton said:
1. The country is fucked. Has been since March.
2. Can we not turn this into a political point scoring exercise. Regardless of what the government have our haven't done at no point have I seen the opposition suggest we sit round the table and discuss what is best for the country as a whole.
3. As mentioned previously, in my opinion, the figures coming out of London have been deliberately under reported to prevent a national lockdown. The shift in cases from lockdown one to now is a shift equivalent to a fourteen fold turnaround in infection rates.
4. I don't and have never voted for any political party in this country. I am still waiting for an NHS operation to correct my problems (started in February). I have returned to work this last week regardless of the pain I am in as I need of income to protect wife and kids. She lost her job last lockdown and I'm a prime candidate for being potted this time as highest earner with shortest service.
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It will only start to change when it changes from

How can we affect change to

How can I affect change.

Sadly in the U.K. these days, not very soon.
 
Off on a plane on Monday, it seems from the seat picker, only 9 seats are taken. That industry must be on its feet. Once this is over will it take a long time to recover what we've all taken for granted re: travel?
 
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