COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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BlueAnorak said:
Quite the reverse. I'm guided by proven science and common sence - not by unproven science theory.
Face masks for example. Our science establishment said they weren't needed. I said they were talking bollox and they were proven to be talking bollox by proven scientific fact.
The same applies this time round with Covid secure pubs and restaurants. Now establishments not following the rules should be shut down, but overall it's 3% of cases are in restaurants and 5% of cases in pubs. Peanuts. Indeed shutting pubs has driven infection rates up as selfish people are meeting in each others unsecure Covid homes instead.
Schools are directly the source 26% of cases and half of all cases in the home our from teenage children bringing the infection home and giving it to their families (a large chunk of the "Other" statistics).
Where one family member works in a care home that gives us another 26% of cases - driven by care workers with asymptomic Covid-19.
The government is not reporting detailed locations visited by infected people as well as cross referenced locations with other infected people. For some reason our wonderful SAGEs don't want the truth to come out that Schools are driving at least 60% of cases.
Hardly surprising as anecdotal evidence from two high school teacher friends and by others on here has stated that Hands/Face/Space is pretty much non existent in most high schools.
ALL statistics should be published so our SAGEs can be challenged on their theories. If you can't challenge scientific theory it isn't science.
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What qualifications do you have to challenge the overwhelming consensus of scientific theory?
 
FantasyIreland said:
Doesn't affect me motor mouth,as I am fortunate enough to have a fantastic home gym.I was thinking of others,you might want to try it......
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Seems some on your side of the argument are very concerned about others, unless of course that extends to them actually dying, about which it seems they not give a toss. Forgive me for caring about us needlessly killing people.
 
Chippy_boy said:
I am reminded of what I wrote at the beginning of March this year.
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Your‘re doing the same as the government though by somehow implying that all the dead would all be alive. Check out excess deaths to get the true picture of what’s going on.
Over 10000 people died EVERY week in England and Wales in 2019. In the winter hospitals were full, as were ICU’s, but people were treated for cancer, heart conditions and strokes, aged dementia patients had visits from families and people were dying surrounded by their loved ones. Lives were remembered and grief was allowed.
 
ManCityX said:
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Not doing the circuit breaker over the school holidays will turn out to be as stupid as not protecting care homes , sage did their best to get it done

Test the students at uni and send home the negatives ones , stop the transmission and the spread that follows where it is at its worse , cant believe how fucking stupid it was tosend the kids back to uni

As with the first wave , no hindsight required
 
i was in tesco this morning, and 2 different people didn't bother with masks, why don't they refuse to serve people without masks, i tried to tell one of them, but he didnt understand me,or did but was pretending not to, his mrs had something covering her mouth and nose, fucking ignorance , the other i didn't bother with, she were an older lady and possibly at the age of most risk, so if she doesn't give a fuck about her health then fuck her
 
Chippy_boy said:
Seems some on your side of the argument are very concerned about others, unless of course that extends to them actually dying, about which it seems they not give a toss. Forgive me for caring about us needlessly killing people.
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I've already explained my reasoning,it seems you are determined to have an unfounded hyperbolic rant regardless.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Closing gyms,more so independants,will achieve nothing except cause further anger,frustration and distress.

Anyone who trains in such an establishment will understand they are very much a disciplined and respectful setting,and probably one of the safest places you could be......mainly because,if you don't,you will receive a very hard punch to the head.
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Unfortunately kid, everone there is pushing as much air and therefore droplets of water in and out of their lungs as possible.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
What dumbbells? I go to the gym because I don’t have any weights at home.

I do strength training with heavy weights using a barbell and plates with a squat rack. For proper ones with the size of weights I lift would cost a few grand up to about £5k.

I’m not going to be able to put my sofa on my back to squat or deadlift my bed for the next month. I might try, but I’m thinking I’d be likely to break them.

I’m losing out on going to one of the only places I go to as someone who lives alone, a place with ZERO cases, yet schools, places that are accounting for over a quarter of the spread of this virus, are staying open.

If we were actually doing something to really stop the spread of this virus and help out the NHS, secondary schools and colleges would be closing. Gyms have been very safe places with very cautious and sensible members and workers, with distancing and sanitising not seen anywhere else.
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Watching Rocky might inspire some thoughts on how to adapt.
 
peace frog said:
i was in tesco this morning, and 2 different people didn't bother with masks, why don't they refuse to serve people without masks, i tried to tell one of them, but he didnt understand me,or did but was pretending not to, his mrs had something covering her mouth and nose, fucking ignorance , the other i didn't bother with, she were an older lady and possibly at the age of most risk, so if she doesn't give a fuck about her health then fuck her
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This is something I don't get. You can't get through the door over here without a mask on. A lot of places have a person handing masks out at the door.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Closing gyms,more so independants,will achieve nothing except cause further anger,frustration and distress.

Anyone who trains in such an establishment will understand they are very much a disciplined and respectful setting,and probably one of the safest places you could be......mainly because,if you don't,you will receive a very hard punch to the head.
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I've stopped going to my gym, and that was very hard for me to do. You'e right it will cause distress and and frustration but imo my gym was very unsafe and all the ones I've been to have all been very similar.
 
Barcon said:
This is something I don't get. You can't get through the door over here without a mask on. A lot of places have a person handing masks out at the door.
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Britain is in a bit of a state with itself at the moment. You ever get grumpy and refuse to listen, stick out your chest and tell em to shove it? Even tho you know it to be at least partially true and of benefit to you, you need to tell them to fuck off? For months on end? Years?

That's Britain.
 
Marvin said:
I've stopped going to my gym, and that was very hard for me to do. You'e right it will cause distress and and frustration but imo my gym was very unsafe and all the ones I've been to have all been very similar.
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Was it a chain or an independent?
 
Barcon said:
This is something I don't get. You can't get through the door over here without a mask on. A lot of places have a person handing masks out at the door.
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its not the first time ive seen someone without a mask, people don't seem to give a fuck, or have it wont happen to me attitude.

next time I'm going to ask to see the manager, why the fuck should i go into that shop and spend my money when the shop manager doesn't give a fuck about himself, his staff and his customers
 
Australia seems to have done well. Not sure how it’ll play out when they ease restrictions on flights again. May be an unpopular view but I’d rather we isolate ourselves with flight restrictions from everyone else if it allows society to function in some normality.

www.bbc.co.uk

Australia records zero Covid-19 cases for first time in five months

Locally-transmitted cases have dropped to zero and one state is hopeful for a "normal Christmas".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
Chippy_boy said:
Huge government? WTF are you on about? I am simply understanding the fact that if we don't put strict controls in place, tens - perhaps hundreds of thousands - of people would die needlessly. Meanwhile on planet cuckoo land where you live, everything is hunky dory. Astonishing.
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Huge government. Corbyn planned on borrowing £100B and you were appalled about the decimation of the public finances, with absolutely no thought for the improvement in peoples lives that might have resulted, the extra years that people may have got and the increased life chances of the young. Nope, it was all about the economy and how much cash you could make. The OBR reckoned we’d be borrowing £372B before yesterday’s announcement, so what it’ll be after another 4/5/6/8/10 weeks of lockdown is anyone’s guess but that’s fine with you.
Hopefully you won’t be on here bitching and moaning about cuts to pensions and pension tax relief, increases in VAT, income tax and NI plus a raft of as yet not mentioned taxes.
 
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