2020 US Elections

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FogBlueInSanFran said:
You've managed to craft a post that is actually covered in your own jism.

You know what I remember?

That you got Donald Trump totally wrong.

I mean he made you his bitch, didn’t he?

I remember you slinking off in embarrassment after the Soleimani incident, ne'er to be seen on the Trump thread for months.

What you know about what my country has been through, who we are after this, what Trump has done to friendships and families, to discourse and trust, could fit in a Dixie cup.

Why would anyone think your bullshit analysis or predictions have any credence now?

We don't.
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Good morning Fog. Wishing you all the best today.
 
Gaudion M said:
As I have said many times. The army of lawyers can only make arguments around how a vote works in each state. Its a step that might help you turn around a couple of hundred or maybe thousand deficit if you target some specific issues. But if there are millions of postal votes alongside millions of in person votes and the outcome is a Biden win by hundreds of thousands - Is Trump really going to try to argue that the millions of postal votes should be thrown out.

Re-counted maybe. Counted in some other way maybe. But in a slam dunk Biden win the lawyers cant just go in and make up the numbers. They have to have a case to argue, and the bigger the turnout the harder it is to have any plausible argument that you can push that flips a state from one result to another. And if you need to do that in multiple states do you have any credibility as POTUS?

I suspect this is what is driving the turnout. Americans dont trust Trump to concede in a fair but close election so even though many think Trump is going to lose they are determined to ensure he loses in a way that cant be argued in court in any reasonable way. That is a big difference over 2016 where on election day people just assumed Hilary would win even though she was fairly uninspiring in the campaign and the lead was falling in the run up.
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It's all moot. If Florida goes for Biden by more than 100k votes, Trump can't do anything because he will be toast.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I thought he made a fair point, but appreciate that you have every right to call me names for doing so. I'm looking forward to Baden's victory - brought to be no doubt by those who obsess with Trump calling his supporters idiots for four years and in doing so successfully changing their minds / voting preference.
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Its going to be a great day for you whatever happens. Stirring the pot is what you live for and today must have you rubbing your hands with glee.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I thought he made a fair point, but appreciate that you have every right to call me names for doing so. I'm looking forward to Baden's victory - brought to be no doubt by those who obsess with Trump calling his supporters idiots for four years and in doing so successfully changing their minds / voting preference.
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I’m pretty sure that a bit of punctuation in there could make that last sentence actually mean what you thought it did rather than the way I’m reading it.
 
SWP's back said:
I guess it’s trying to wring every last drop out of the votes and making sure that everyone votes.

Last time 130m voted and the electoral college swung on 70,000 across 3 states. That’s 0.0538% of the votes cast.

Every little helps.
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Is that percentage where 538 the polling aggregator got the idea of their name from?
 
BobKowalski said:
You said ‘plenty of women, including black‘ voted for both Obama and Trump, which was incorrect as black women did not (source Pew Research). I doubt if the black male electorate voted for Obama, more likely they are solid Republican conservative voters.

Those that voted for both were predominately white voters who like to vote for the ‘outsider‘ based on the odd belief that people with zero experience at governing will be good at governing, a notion that the pandemic has shown to be somewhat flawed.
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I did not write black women, it was women (all races), black and Hispanic (all genders). Sorry if not clearly worded.

If you are correct that there were 14 per cent black men who may vote Republican, regardless of candidate, then it again underlines they are voting on partisan lines rather than the colour of skin or racial bias.

The floating voter will always exist and cannot be clearly identified.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
It's all moot. If Florida goes for Biden by more than 100k votes, Trump can't do anything because he will be toast.
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If that is the case its moot as the people have made it moot.

Could it be that all the talk and prep from Trump about not conceding and fighting in the courts and asking the proud boys to stand by has lit a fire under the Dem leaning voters.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
I know some pretty clever people (Advanced degree's, US DoD employees) who voted Trump in 2016.

They are not voting Trump this time.
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I spoke to lots of people over there just before the 2016 election. There was a sense that people voted for who they saw as the least worse candidate. There were some very well-educated and cultured people who thought Clinton was a worse option than Trump. I guess the attraction of Biden is that he's relatively inoffensive to voters, unlike the many strong, negative opinions I heard expressed about Clinton.
 
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