Premier League games 6/7/8/ November

SebastianBlue said:
If I am truly honest with myself — and I said this at the beginning of the season but hoped it would change — I am much less interested in football generally this season. I am trying to care, as I could use a distraction, like so many of us could, but I am struggling to muster it.

That may sound minor, but football (as it has been for most of us) has been an integral part of my life since I learned to kick a ball. It’s been fundamental to my daily experience for three decades. And I know it’s been the same for others for many more years than that. Any loss in appetite is quite a shift. And the loss is rather substantial.

Now, there are obviously many other things contributing to that relative disinterest, many rather serious and deserving of attention and focus over a game I am not even playing myself.

But I do think it is also partly down to how the game is changing, how the manipulation is becoming so obvious, how the fans are being marginalised in favour of a fully commercialised ‘product’, the absurd economics of the football market in a time of immense strife for so many, and the general corruption pervasive in the sport that just becomes more difficult to ignore the longer you are exposed to it, especially when certain entities have begun to effectively lord it over others.

I still love City, that will not change, barring something truly abhorrent happening. But I just am not remotely as excited about watching us or other games (which I used to do quite a lot, as I generally just loved football).

I suppose it’s just the natural progression of things. You move on.

Still, for me at least, it’s a big change and somewhat sad to feel it happening.
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Couldn't have put it any better.
 
1.618034 said:
The laws are making them even more detestable.

The game now seems to be get in the box and instead of creating a chance for a goal, they go in looking for a penalty. That's because VAR is reluctant to overturn original decisions but refs are giving softer ones because they want VAR to have a look.

I'd bin VAR but then I look at other leagues and even The CL/EL and there isn't really a problem.

Funny that.
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It’s a problem everywhere. VAR is fucking shit!

Look at the Chelsea penalty the other night: hit the guys knee and deflected onto his arm, they gave a pen, gave the player a yellow card, which was his second so he got sent off. There was fuck all he could have done!
 
Jazzman said:
Thank you for putting words to how I feel. Well done! Wish I could like this post more than once.
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mat said:
Couldn't have put it any better.
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Cheers.

Sad to hear that so many others feel the same way, but also (selfishly) happy to know that I am not alone.

I think that is the biggest takeaway from everything going on: none of us are alone, especially not on here. Even if many on here disagree about various topics — which we definitely do, of course — we are blues in the end (well, most of us).

Things have been difficult, and the next few months (or more) will be, as well, but we have each other to get through it.

That goes well beyond football.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It’s a problem everywhere. VAR is fucking shit!

Look at the Chelsea penalty the other night: hit the guys knee and deflected onto his arm, they gave a pen, gave the player a yellow card, which was his second so he got sent off. There was fuck all he could have done!
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VAR isn’t shit.
It’s the cheating, corrupt, bent, lying, fixing twats running it that we need to get rid of. Along with the cheating, corrupt, bent, lying, fixing twats receiving the favours of points they haven’t earned.
 
SebastianBlue said:
If I am truly honest with myself — and I said this at the beginning of the season but hoped it would change — I am much less interested in football generally this season. I am trying to care, as I could use a distraction, like so many of us could, but I am struggling to muster it.

That may sound minor, but football (as it has been for most of us) has been an integral part of my life since I learned to kick a ball. It’s been fundamental to my daily experience for three decades. And I know it’s been the same for others for many more years than that. Any loss in appetite is quite a shift. And the loss is rather substantial.

Now, there are obviously many other things contributing to that relative disinterest, many rather serious and deserving of attention and focus over a game I am not even playing myself.

But I do think it is also partly down to how the game is changing, how the manipulation is becoming so obvious, how the fans are being marginalised in favour of a fully commercialised ‘product’, the absurd economics of the football market in a time of immense strife for so many, and the general corruption pervasive in the sport that just becomes more difficult to ignore the longer you are exposed to it, especially when certain entities have begun to effectively lord it over others.

I still love City, that will not change, barring something truly abhorrent happening. But I just am not remotely as excited about watching us or other games (which I used to do quite a lot, as I generally just loved football).

I suppose it’s just the natural progression of things. You move on.

Still, for me at least, it’s a big change and somewhat sad to feel it happening.
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When a 'game' becomes a product, and 'spectators' become customers it's a very steep slippery slope.

The games been bent for years, but at this rate it will be WWE in 5 years.
 
See that wanker Mike dean has made sure that the game is about him again . App worst decision ever by VAR at selhurst park
 
squirtyflower said:
VAR isn’t shit.
It’s the cheating, corrupt, bent, lying, fixing twats running it that we need to get rid of. Along with the cheating, corrupt, bent, lying, fixing twats receiving the favours of points they haven’t earned.
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That very true!

But VAR is still shit due to the fact that a goal is no longer a special moment. VAR has made that elation when the ball hits the net disappear, because you never know what might have happened to disallow it.

Also, as fans in the grounds, we are the last people to know what’s going on. We’ve paid our money to watch the game and gone to the effort of going to these grounds around the country, yet when a decision is with VAR none of us have a scoobies what’s going on.

Plus, with refs now encouraged to go to the screen on the sideline, there are even more moments of the game where nothing is happening. We can be stood watching a pitch with 22 men stood around doing nothing while an official is off the pitch watching tele, which can add up to a few minutes.

Football was already struggling with the ball-in-play labouring around 65%, while rugby league’s new rules have seen the BIP run well over 80% on a regular basis (one fixture last month had 14 more minutes BIP than the same fixture last year!).

VAR is seeing the sport go backwards! And that’s even without the corruption side of it.
 
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