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N Ireland 3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today

Deaths 5 v 8 v 10 v 14 today - still rising here which is a little concerning

Cases 727 v 493 v 471 v 331 today - slow but steady fall to lowest in a while.

7 day total cases ?? (but over 5000) v 4919 v 3921 v 3831 today

Patients 342 v 371 v 426 v 427 today

Ventilated 30 v 42 v 43 v 37 today Hospital data impacted by recent high death numbers but still slowing.
 
Healdplace said:
Kaz, I do not care one bit if you read nothing I post. It is your free choice. So there is nothing to 'get over'.

But I have worked in or with the media all my life and I know the difference between telling the truth and telling the truth you want people to believe. I have been involved in front page tabloid stories so I have seen the difference first hand.

Most mass media engage in both when it suits.
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Exactly there is no neutral ground with the media nowadays, you watch the main stream and it is all about scaring people to death and into complying, then you find another outlet who say CV is nothing, there are plenty of scientists talking on youtube who are giving impartial thoughts as they have no agenda but they are hard to find. It was the same during the US election, one side doing their all to demonize Trump, the other side running full on with the voter fraud narrative.

You are better off looking at the data yourself and forming your own personal opinion. Mine happens to be that I have no fear of covid whatsoever ( and don't know a single person who has ) and don't want to see people lose their livelihoods with these restrictions and our way of life be changed by Governemnts forever in the name of saving the NHS, who should be saving us! That said I won't discredit others opinions, which sadly happens here a lot :(
 
190 England hospital deaths in detail:

15 Nov adds 36 = 36 after 1 day (33 added last week)

14 Nov adds 105 = 128 after 2 days (100 added last week to = 122)

13 Nov adds 30 = 166 after 3 days (19 added last week to = 150)

12 Nov adds 7 = 239 after 4 days (12 added last week to = 182)

11 Nov adds 2 = 217 after 5 days (1 added last week = 219) First 5 day week to week drop in a while.

2 were added to 9 Nov = 289, 8 Nov = 241, 7 Nov - 260

1 added to 10 Nov = 248, 6 Nov = 224, 2 Nov = 216 and 19 Oct = 113

The 9 Nov total of 289 deaths ascribed is the highest in England hospitals on a single day since 1 May.
 
So todays UK deaths are 212 without the England out of hospital data added. Last week they were 186 at this point.

That 186 became 194 when out of hospital data was added (this is low too from Sundays and will catch up big tomorrow)

The actual number we currently now know to have died on 8 Nov (the date reported on last Monday) is now a lot more than 194 and is 369.
 
Healdplace said:
Cases today from the three nations apart from England is 1940.

3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today this number is:

3007 v 3090 v 2314 v 1940 today - which looks a promising track
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Do I remember correctly that they all had an earlier lockdown than us?

Hopefully ours head the same way!
 
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Just read the last 5 pages of the thread! Bloody hell.

My take is it is clearly on the way down in Manchester.

Simply from my Siren Radar. Far less this last week in Town than over the last month.

I ready somewhere that these waves last 6/8 weeks.

Believe that from what i am reading as well.

Good news on the Vaccine front continues.

I am very hopefully that the AZ one is the one and will achieve a higher percentage than the first 2.
 
worsleyweb said:
Just read the last 5 pages of the thread! Bloody hell.

My take is it is clearly on the way down in Manchester.

Simply from my Siren Radar. Far less this last week in Town than over the last month.

I ready somewhere that these waves last 6/8 weeks.

Believe that from what i am reading as well.

Good news on the Vaccine front continues.

I am very hopefully that the AZ one is the one and will achieve a higher percentage than the first 2.
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To have a higher percentage I think would be a miracle. 80 and 95% are already very high for a vaccine.
 
oman0115 said:
Exactly there is no neutral ground with the media nowadays, you watch the main stream and it is all about scaring people to death and into complying, then you find another outlet who say CV is nothing, there are plenty of scientists talking on youtube who are giving impartial thoughts as they have no agenda but they are hard to find. It was the same during the US election, one side doing their all to demonize Trump, the other side running full on with the voter fraud narrative.

You are better off looking at the data yourself and forming your own personal opinion. Mine happens to be that I have no fear of covid whatsoever ( and don't know a single person who has ) and don't want to see people lose their livelihoods with these restrictions and our way of life be changed by Governemnts forever in the name of saving the NHS, who should be saving us! That said I won't discredit others opinions, which sadly happens here a lot :(
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Well put
 
BlueAnorak said:
Yes 40% but against the virus strains it is designed to counter it is about 90% - the trouble is Flu virus mutates quickly and spreads fairly quickly. Incidently its R number is 1.7 just over half that of Covid
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Covid viruses COULD cause a problem going forward as opposed to Flu due to its high R0 of 3 (but it could by as high as 5 due to asymptomatic transmission).
This reason for this is that around 68% of the population will have to be immune to flatten the epidemic infection curve. For flu only around 40% have to be im.une to flatten the curve.
 
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