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cleavers said:
Might be a "different" tier 2 though, I'm pretty sure they won't be the same as before this poor effort of a "lockdown", I fully expect we'll be told to stay home unless it's essential.
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Maybe. I need to ask him for further details.

I do think the Govt will want non essential shops open in the run-up to Christmas. I guess we will find out at the end of next week.
 
Well I tried to do the vaccine trial this morning at Synexus off Lloyd St. Had a reminder call yesterday with a postcode for where the car park was & was asked to arrive 15 mins early for my 8.00 health check appointment.

Got down there for 7.30 only to find their carpark was permit only with big £100 fine signs everywhere. 5/6 other permit ones in the same area. The only visitor park I could see was open but the business on it was closed so I decided not to chance it on there. Everywhere else in the area was restricted etc and I'd been told I'd be in there for at least 3 hours so street parking wouldn't have been viable.

Rang Synexus on 3 different numbers only to get an answer phone message so as I'd applied just before the info on the current possible vaccines had been released decided to bin it off and come home.

Halfway home they rang me after picking up my message about 8.30 and said I was supposed to park in the visitors car park across the road that was linked to a totally different company & did I want to come back?

Said I wasn't bothering now having been driving for 90 mins and that it'd help if when they made a courtesy call they actually told people where to park properly.

So I'll hold fire now and wait for the NHS to stab me.

If anyone on here is going to this place park in Greenheys car park.
 
"It may be that schools are asked by the Government to close for all but a small number of pupils but if that does happen for any significant period of time then it should be seen as a monumental failure of this Government to control the virus".
That was part of the November position statement from Manchester Council in relation to schools.
My hunch (and that of quite a few other school heads / deputies): schools will be doing online learning 1st two weeks of December and that lockdown will continue in its current format up until schools finish for Christmas holidays.
 
johnnytapia said:
"It may be that schools are asked by the Government to close for all but a small number of pupils but if that does happen for any significant period of time then it should be seen as a monumental failure of this Government to control the virus".
That was part of the November position statement from Manchester Council in relation to schools.
My hunch (and that of quite a few other school heads / deputies): schools will be doing online learning 1st two weeks of December and that lockdown will continue in its current format up until schools finish for Christmas holidays.
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Why should schools go online if the cases are falling?
 
worsleyweb said:
Why should schools go online if the cases are falling?
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mexico1970 said:
It's a very good question, if as you say cases are falling whilst schools are still open there would be no need to shut them.
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I think you need to consider who the ‘Position Statement‘ is from, Manchester City Council.
The bastion of even handed political thinking. The fact that they manage to lay into the Tories within their non-position statement tells you it is more a political stance and point scoring diatribe.

I used to work for Manchester Education Committee for a number of years but left due to the constant political interference. Was asked several times to go and work for them but couldn’t return to the meddling by people with ideologies rather than ideas.
 
worsleyweb said:
Why should schools go online if the cases are falling?
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Totally agree, just quoting the letter from the council's exec for Children's Services. He is 100% behind schools staying open and the rest of the letter gives all the reasons, but, it seems he may have been briefed that schools will close.
Maybe something of a government quid pro quo - you want Christmas with your families, well, we need the numbers to be x and to achieve that we believe closing schools will help us achieve that.
 
Giles Brandreth on This Morning just started a campaign to solve the Christmas lockdown issue by changing it for one year to 25 March to coincide with Jesus's 'real' birthday after calendar adjustments. Good luck with that one being accepted.
 
Healdplace said:
Giles Brandreth on This Morning just started a campaign to solve the Christmas lockdown issue by changing it for one year to 25 March to coincide with Jesus's 'real' birthday after calendar adjustments. Good luck with that one being accepted.
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Two birthdays? If it's good enough for the Queen, it's good enough for The King.
 
Healdplace said:
Giles Brandreth on This Morning just started a campaign to solve the Christmas lockdown issue by changing it for one year to 25 March to coincide with Jesus's 'real' birthday after calendar adjustments. Good luck with that one being accepted.
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Too close to my birthday. I don’t want to be one of those who have to make do with a xmas present and birthday present combined. No thanks.
 
johnnytapia said:
Maybe something of a government quid pro quo - you want Christmas with your families, well, we need the numbers to be x and to achieve that we believe closing schools will help us achieve that.
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A quid pro quo in a pandemic? Just fuck Christmas off for this year and concentrate on getting the case numbers right down until the vaccines are on stream.
 
Pablo1 said:
Haha! Chris played for our 7 a side team with his two sons in Tenerife for a few years whenever they were over. Never knew he was born on Xmas day but remember saying ‘Jesus Christ’ a few times to him on the pitch!! :-)
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Had a chat with him at Norwich away the 6-1, was having a beer on the concourse and a really nice waft of aftershave caught my nose, it was him. Nice guy, put up with a load of pissed up blues and kept smiling.
 
carlosthejackal said:
Over fifty thousand deaths and people worried about a turkey dinner !! I’d like to say unbelievable but looking back at the last few years it isn’t.
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Cases are currently falling, the government has the opportunity to prepare the groundwork for the run up and the christmas week to allow for christmas to be held relatively normally.

If they don't do this then many people will lose their jobs, billions will be lost from the economy however the end result will be that people will ignore the rules anyway and cases will still rise.

They need to facilitate through guidelines and rules how people can mitigate their risk to others. They should stipulate how to mitigate risk through prior self-isolation, place limits on how many households can gather and set the time period to a few days maximum (24th, 25th, 26th).

If cases are low enough then the effect this will have on new cases is irrelevant compared to the risk you currently face by going to work or your kids going to school from now until mid-December.
 
Scotland data up first as usual:

50 deaths, tragically high and up on last week

1089 cases

at 4.6 % positive

1212 Patients - down 29

85 on icu ventilators - down 3. Though these numbers will be impacted by the sadly high death total.
 
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