COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Out on blue 6]

Dudley near me is now the worst place in the country. Hardly surprising judging by the arse holes I met in Tesco on Thursday night.
Tesco is just effing dreadful it isn't doing anything to check punters when they enter.

Where exactly do you live mate? Not far from me either

 

[M18CTID]

On one hand you are claiming to be law abiding and, on the other saying fuck it, I'll do what I see fit.

As I say, we are governed by laws and whether we like them or not is irrelevant. You either abide or get punished if found out.

Do you agree those ignoring the laws these last few months have prolonged the pain the rest of us are having to endure?

I think the discussion you’re both having is purely hypothetical anyway. Surely if infections were significantly lower in our area compared to another area, they wouldn’t stick us in the higher tier and the other area in a lower one....or would they?

 

[kaz7]

I say again. When did Christmas ever cause a rise in flu cases?
NEVER.
Why will Covid-19 be any different?

You are wrong

 

[GornikDaze]

Dudley near me is now the worst place in the country. Hardly surprising judging by the arse holes I met in Tesco on Thursday night.
Tesco is just effing dreadful it isn't doing anything to check punters when they enter.

Serves you right for living near Dudley! ;) The Pensnett Hilton aka Russell’s Hall is to be avoided at all costs... it’s bad there according to Mrs Daze

 

[Manc in London]

Think you've summed it up with whatever is best for London.

Was it best for London when Govt waited for many deaths before introducing lockdown during the first wave?

In what way have London benefitted and no-one else has?

For five months the various figs have shown London, in general, has favoured better than almost all metropolitan areas.

 

[mosssideblue]

I think the discussion you’re both having is purely hypothetical anyway. Surely if infections were significantly lower in our area compared to another area, they wouldn’t stick us in the higher tier and the other area in a lower one....or would they?

Missing the point totally

 

[Out on blue 6]

Serves you right for living near Dudley! ;) The Pensnett Hilton aka Russell’s Hall is to be avoided at all costs... it’s bad there according to Mrs Daze

My Mrs works there. Shall I give you her number?

 

[Manc in London]

And disease occurs 2-5 days after infection. Shut the schools early and we will be in an even better position.

As a parent of a school age child, I am not generally in favour of shutdowns of schools but I do like the idea of an extra week or so. Thus, making the Xmas break a little longer. Of course, I appreciate this will be a ball ache for those who need to sort out childcare.

 

[Healdplace]

Sadly very bad England hospital death data considering this is Sunday - so Saturday reporting.

222 with 37 from the NW (low but NW always under reports at weekend).

The last 3 weeks were 137/ 32 NW v 122 / 23 NW v last week 132 / 27 NW

So as you can see today is a rather grim weekend escalation week to week.

 

[hilts]

In what circumstance does ignoring the rules make perfect sense?

What I think the posters point was is this - if after lockdown the R rate is lower or the same in the north as the south but the govt puts some in tier 2 but the north in tier 3 then how can he/she be acting irresponsibly by deciding to follow tier 2. Now you may be the sort that follows rules even if they don’t make any sense to you and that’s fine but the virus itself doesn’t change who it infects depending on any geographical line.

Maybe we should all see what happens before we argue about hypotheticals?

 

[itsnevereasy]

What is much sadder is people not realising that people doing their own thing is the reason we are being constrained.

The reason we are being constrained is because of the awful manner that the government have dealt with this. Why should the vast majority have to live under these draconian rules when this virus poses very little risk to them? Those at risk - protect them and as tough as it may be isolate them until a vaccine is available. Ruining the country to protect a very small minority is idiotic when they could be protected in other ways that wouldn’t have involved mass job losses, companies going bust and a huge national debt that the next generation are going to have to suffer for.

 

[Healdplace]

Though the news is better for the NW as the % of deaths from this total is 23 v 19 v 20 v 17% today.

So the problem is the NW is coming out of it but there is a lot of other areas still in or heading into it that might mean wave 2 has a way to go yet.

 

[117 M34]

And disease occurs 2-5 days after infection. Shut the schools early and we will be in an even better position.

Not in 5-10 years when the kids who have missed out on loads of schooling are in the workplace and can't do their jobs properly.

 

[Healdplace]

More details of the 222 England hospital deaths:

Ages 20 - 39 (2), 40 - 59 (13), 60 - 79 (70) and 80 (137).

66 were in the Midlands and 67 in the NE/Yorkshire versus the 37 in the NW.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Scotland giving a little bit of cause for optimism with past couple of days figures perhaps...

 

[Healdplace]

222 England hospital deaths in detail

Sadly we have a new second wave peak day and it has surpassed 300 on that day.

21 Nov adds 20 = 20 after 1 day (Last wk 23 added)

20 Nov adds 117 = 169 after 2 days (Last wk 75 added to = 136 - big jump)

19 Nov adds 49 = 242 after 3 days (Last wk 17 added = 232)

18 Nov adds 15 = 302 after 4 days (Last wk 7 added = 215 - so huge rise here to new high in second wave) - 28 April last time any day has been this high at day 4.

17 April adds 5 = 274 after 5 days (Last wk 7 added = 247).


Other add ons iclude 9 Nov - previous peak of this wave - going up to 297.

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland giving a little bit of cause for optimism with past couple of days figures perhaps...

Hi, yes it does happily. As does the NW still in the England data.

Scotland

7 deaths - which is high for a Sunday report.

844 cases - 5.4% positive

1170 patients (down 23)

95 on ventilator icu (down 5)

 

[Healdplace]

Scotland 3 wks ago v 2 wks v last wk v today

Deaths 6 v 3 v 0 v 7 today

Cases 1148 v 1115 v 1159 v 844 today - promising drop

Patients 1193 v 1245 v 1241 v 1170 today - really good to see patients lower than 3 weeks ago

Icu ventilators 81 v 86 v 100 v 95 today

 

[Healdplace]

Wales 11 deaths 808 cases from 14 K tests.

 

[Healdplace]

Wales 3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v today

Deaths 16 v 19 v 16 v 11 today - at least going in the right direction.

Cases 819 v 744 v 1333 v 808 today - just down on 3 wks ago but big drop from last week.

Patients 809 v 950 v 1080 v 1100 (Friday) - a clear slowing down

Ventilators 58 v 66 v 72 v 64 (Friday) - looking a little hopeful too.