COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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artfuldodger said:
I understand that fear and at nearly 58 I remember Thalidomide in children slightly older than me. But when you say ‘if no bad side effects come to light’ you mean in the people who HAVE taken it. Personally I’ll have the vaccine (I’m on a trial so may already have done). Ive children between the ages of 18 and 32 and I don’t want them to have to live like this for a moment longer than they need to. But I might feel differently if my circumstances were different.
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Maybe I have just read to many Dean Koontz and Stephen King novels. ;-)
 
Regions:

London Patients up 1441 - 1454 (was 1244 wk ago) Ventilators up 233 - 251 (was 202)

Midlands Patients down 3088 - 3044 (was 2850 wk ago( Ventilators down 290 - 288 (was 267)

NE/Yorks Patients down 3196 - 3172 (was 3038 wk ago) Ventilators down 246 - 239 (was 216)
 
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Under his 56-page COVID Winter Plan, which Mr Johnson revealed to the House of Commons on Monday, the national shutdown will be replaced by a new "tougher" version of the tiered system of restrictions that preceded it

The lifting of the national lockdown from 2 December will see:

  • Non-essential shops, hairdressers, gyms and leisure facilities reopen across the whole of England
  • Collective worship, weddings and all outdoor sports can resume, subject to social distancing, across the whole of England
  • The "rule of six" will return - meaning people will no longer be limited to seeing only one other person in outdoor public - across the whole of England
  • The previous 10pm curfew for pubs, bars and restaurants will be extended to 11pm, with last orders at 10pm
In Tier 1 areas, people will be urged to work from home wherever possible.

In Tier 2 areas, pubs and bars must close unless they are serving substantial meals along with alcoholic drinks.

In Tier 3 areas all pubs, bars and restaurants must close except for delivery, takeaway and drive-through. Hotels and indoor entertainment venues must also close in these areas

PM,
"I'm sorry to say we expect that more regions will fall at least temporarily into higher levels than before," he added.

"But by using these tougher tiers and by using rapid turnaround tests on an ever greater scale to drive R below one and keep it there, it should be possible for areas to move down the tiering scale to lower levels of restrictions.
 
kaz7 said:
Under his 56-page COVID Winter Plan, which Mr Johnson revealed to the House of Commons on Monday, the national shutdown will be replaced by a new "tougher" version of the tiered system of restrictions that preceded it

The lifting of the national lockdown from 2 December will see:

  • Non-essential shops, hairdressers, gyms and leisure facilities reopen across the whole of England
  • Collective worship, weddings and all outdoor sports can resume, subject to social distancing, across the whole of England
  • The "rule of six" will return - meaning people will no longer be limited to seeing only one other person in outdoor public - across the whole of England
  • The previous 10pm curfew for pubs, bars and restaurants will be extended to 11pm, with last orders at 10pm
In Tier 1 areas, people will be urged to work from home wherever possible.

In Tier 2 areas, pubs and bars must close unless they are serving substantial meals along with alcoholic drinks.

In Tier 3 areas all pubs, bars and restaurants must close except for delivery, takeaway and drive-through. Hotels and indoor entertainment venues must also close in these areas

PM,
"I'm sorry to say we expect that more regions will fall at least temporarily into higher levels than before," he added.

"But by using these tougher tiers and by using rapid turnaround tests on an ever greater scale to drive R below one and keep it there, it should be possible for areas to move down the tiering scale to lower levels of restrictions.
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I really hope they get there act together to enable that last paragraph to happen
 
blue b4 the moon said:
It's mad round the shops in December normally....will be carnage after the lockdown.
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That’s why I’ve done all my Christmas shopping already (presents).

I will do all the Christmas food shopping later on in the evenings nearer the time.
 
Regional scoreboard shock.

Everywhere down and London the biggest area again,

London 2075 - down from 2979.

Midlands 2020 - down from 2465.

North East 732 - down from 837. ~

Yorkshire 1667 - down from 1748.

And North West - bottom of the big league regions - where it is good to be. Just 1573 - down from 1994.

It is over two months since it has been that low and nearly 3 months since it was regularly around that level.
 
So it looks like a gamble.
Save retail by opening shops for the Xmas period and risk a third wave and lockdown in January after the inevitable Christmas blow out?
Interesting to see if the boy Whitty is happy with that risk.
 
Greater Manchester gets its lowest score for nearly 3 months at just 763. Only 3200 less than last Monday!!! Though that was due to the student reallocation to Manchester and Salford. More reflectively 10 days ago it was over 3 times this many at 2587.

48% of the NW total as the fall is right across the region. Liverpool had just 59 cases today. Its Pop score only went up 11 - better than half of even the best in GM - showing you how far they have fallen from the 507 they had 40 days ago.
 
In GM for the first time in - well - yonks - EVERY borough except Manchester was under 100. Yes even Wigan!

And Manchester had its lowest number for many weeks too.

You know things have changed extraordinarily for the better when Stockport had one of the relatively worst days in GM today despite falling slightly and being under 80 for the third day on the run.

Only Rochdale went up today and even they stayed under 100. As you will realise that means basket case Oldham for much of the pandemic was below 100 too for the first time in quite a while.
 
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Latest 7 day rolling average of cases per 100,000 people (up to and inc. Weds 18th Nov)
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Looking positive!

But will these daft ideas about a mad six days of mixing over Christmas just see these rocket back up again in the New Year?

Today, my Dad has told my Sister (5 of them in her house) that no matter what Boris says about Christmas this week, he doesn’t want my Sister and family to go and see them over Christmas. My Mother has lupus so her immune system is very poor (and she was one of those who got a shielding letter back in April). It will be a bit sad for my Mam+Dad not to see their 2, 6 and 8 year old grandchildren but at least they’re being sensible.

I wonder how many other households would do this?
 
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